On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 6:34 AM effe iets anders <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thank you Stella, > Thank you Lodewijk for voicing a critical perspective. Hope you do not mind me adding a few points inline. > Thank you for sharing, I'm looking forward to an evaluation of how this > vote was executed, so that we can use these methods for more > topics/decisions in a constructive way. I'm pleased to see how the process > has seen various types of community engagement, and this seems a good step > in the right direction. I guess it's hard to expect more turnout than this. > I think turnout could have been much better at least in smaller language communities. From the experience in the projects I am active in there was a lack of targeted outreach and proactive work, which rendered the whole process super Meta. Doing text translations and putting notices is neither enough nor a good way to communicate complexity and urgency to those most in need of UCoC. New users who joined sub-ideal wikis (not just very toxic) could not meet voting criteria as easily, though the document was mostly to address their most basic needs. (sidenote: the fact that this announcement is being made by a WMF staff > member probably means that this process is less community driven than I > thought. ) > > For a fundamental document like this, I'm surprised to see that there is > 40+% opposition. Is there a good understanding of what in the UCoC is > causing so much opposition? > Not surprised as vocal critics were constantly present in the process...their critique was only partly addressed and of course there is prevailance with older Wikipedians not to change (much) and let alone fast + top down. > I'm asking, because this is supposed to be a universal code, and even if > this opposition was randomly distributed in our communities, it would be > quite likely that there is a meaningful number of communities where there > would be a majority against, if we would split up the vote by community. In > such a case, I imagine that understanding the reasons why people are > against, and whether something can be done to mitigate this (or that any > universal document could likely meet similar opposition) is the least we > could be expected to attempt. > The construction of vote procedure did not allow for partial support (one I would also prefer myself) but only binary + comment. This is suboptimal for lengthy documents and elaborate (but suboptimal) processes. Warm regards, Z. Blace > Warmly, > Lodewijk > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 2:32 PM Stella Ng <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello All, >> >> We would like to thank the over 2300 Wikimedians who participated in the >> recently concluded community vote on the Enforcement Guidelines for the >> Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC) >> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Enforcement_guidelines>. >> At this time, the volunteer scrutinizing group has completed the review >> of the accuracy of the vote and the final results are available on >> Meta-wiki. A quick summary can be found below: >> >> >> - >> >> 58.6% Yes, 41.4% No >> >> >> - >> >> Contributors from 128 home wikis participated in the vote >> - >> >> Over thirty languages were supported in the ballot >> >> >> What this outcome means is that there is enough support for the Board to >> review the document. It does not mean that the Enforcement Guidelines are >> automatically complete. >> >> From here, the project team will collate and summarize the comments >> provided in the voting process, and publish them on Meta-wiki. The >> Enforcement Guidelines will be submitted to the Board of Trustees for their >> consideration. The Board will review input given during the vote, and >> examine whether there are aspects of the Guidelines that need further >> refinement. If so, these comments, and the input provided through Meta-wiki >> and other community conversations, will provide a good starting point for >> revising the Guidelines to meet the needs expressed by communities in the >> voter’s responses. >> >> In the event the Board moves forward with ratification, the UCoC project >> team will begin supporting specific proposals in the Guidelines. Some of >> these proposals include working with community members to form the U4C >> Building Committee, starting consultations on training, and supporting >> conversations on improving our reporting systems. There is still a lot to >> be done, but we will be able to move into the next phase of this work. >> >> Many people took part in making sure the policy and the enforcement >> guidelines work for our communities. We will continue to collaboratively >> work on the details of the strong proposals outlined in the Guidelines as >> presented by the Wikimedians who engaged with the project in different ways >> over the last year. >> >> Once again, we thank everyone who participated in the ratification of >> the Enforcement Guidelines. >> >> Regards, >> >> Stella Ng on behalf of the UCoC Project Team >> >> Senior Manager, Trust and Safety Policy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/B42TE3IZNGKTEPBMORULKNDVJIXM6AC7/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/OINZZ7TJO4Q5H4NUVE2GY5U7NJISXSOY/ > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
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