On Wed, Jul 29, 2026 at 2:49 PM Jimmy Wales via Wikimedia-l < [email protected]> wrote:
> One of the problems with the process so far is that it was > not secret and we have heard from some staff members that they felt > pressured because the organizers would know how they decided. That isn't a > great process and it goes against our movement's values quite badly to have > people in a situation where they are pressured into something one way or > the other. > > It's pretty easy to see the problem if we imagine it in the other > direction - imagine some company asking staff to sign pledge cards not to > join a union, and keeping track of who did or didn't in order to put > pressure on those who didn't. Gross. It doesn't make it better for it to > be the other way around in my own personal view. > It does make it better, because your employer can fire you, but your coworkers can't. That's why voluntary recognition based on card checks <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_check> is legal, and the sort of reverse-card check / informal yellow-dog contract <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow-dog_contract> you describe probably is not. As far as movement values, our movement makes decisions in public by default, often even when conducting formal votes. Of course, employment at a foundation is different from participation on a wiki, but if there is any setting on earth where voluntary recognition is appropriate, this would seem to be it.
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