Do we have a secretary now that you can hand it into.........please.
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Tony Souter <to...@iinet.net.au> wrote: > Dear Andrew > > I am still a member because there was legally no secretary to receive my > written resignation, as you correctly point out is required by Rule 6(1). > > Let's fast reverse for a moment: Charles resigned in writing as > secretary several days *after* Graham was, somehow, appointed to the > position, presumably using the casual vacancy rule—but there was no > vacancy, so the appointment was invalid. I pointed out the problems at the > time and was ignored—the fact that I was ignored is quite explicit in the > minutes of the meeting during which everyone decided to appoint themselves > into different office-bearing positions. > > > http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Meeting:Committee_(2013-03-17)#Committee_reshuffle > > While we're on this matter, "*Action:* Steven agreed to write up a formal > re-shuffle motion, as per the email." – I see no evidence in subsequent > minutes of such a a formal "re-shuffle motion". > > It's as simple as that. > > You say: "the committee will not be responding to your correspondence > dated 25 January 2014"; but you *have* responded. The failure to address > my specific points might prompt members to wonder about several critical > issues. Forgive me for being old-fashioned, but I'm rather fussy about > adherence to rules and laws. > > Kind regards > > Tony > > > > On 25/01/2014, at 8:11 PM, Andrew Owens <orderinchao...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Tony, > > On 1 October 2013, you resigned your membership per Rule 6(1) of the > Association in writing, via a post to the chapter's lists. It is also on > record that this resignation was accepted at the time. As such, you are not > a member under the chapter's rules. > > As a consequence, the committee will not be responding to your > correspondence dated 25 January 2014, and notes only that it contains > several misunderstandings and errors of fact, some of which can be easily > corrected with material already on the record, including reports submitted > to the last AGM and the full text of the Associations Incorporation Reform > Act 2012. > > Regards > > Andrew Owens > Secretary > Wikimedia Australia > > > On 25 January 2014 13:17, Tony Souter <to...@iinet.net.au> wrote: > >> Dear members >> >> Since under the chapter's rules I'm still a member of WMAU until 30 >> June—at which time no membership will be revewable for anyone under the >> rules, I'm sorry to say—may I ask whether the minutes of today's >> "committee" meeting will be posted promptly, unlike last time? >> >> Looking at the minutes of the most recent meeting (by the way, pretty >> short on links for members to navigate to referents), I see 12 red "ACTION" >> statements; only one of them is followed by a note that the action was >> taken: >> >> ACTION: Steven to advise Adam. >> (*Update: Actioned 25 November - committee members CC'd on email.*) >> Although it doesn't say whether the action succeeded in terms of the >> resolution. >> >> >> A sample of the other 11 is below, together with a few other queries. >> >> ______________ >> >> *ACTION: All to update COI register. >> >> Nope: >> >> >> http://www.wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Conflict_of_interest_policy&action=history >> >> ______________ >> >> *Update of records with CAV and the ACNC >> >> - Steven advised that everyone had sent through the necessary >> details. Email issues have hampered the ACNC matter; Steven is sending >> Andrew the form via express post. >> - The rule changes have not been sent to CAV from the SGM. If it goes >> beyond 26 November, the lodgment fee increases from $75.20 to $160.50. >> - ACTION: Steven to email Andrew the form; Andrew to file it with CAV >> on Tuesday. >> >> >> Even if the rule changes were sent to CAV by 26 November, saving the >> chapter half the fee, it ignores the fact that the law (not the rules, the >> law) was breached by not communicating the change within a month of the SGM >> that approved the changes. I believe there's a fine for that breach, but >> would need to check the Act to confirm this. >> >> ______________ >> >> *A7 Past resolutions >> >> - ACTION: Andrew to sort out past resolutions for posting to the >> public wiki. >> >> >> This cake looks worryingly half-baked: >> >> "(add 2013-14, note out of date (will fill this in over coming week)" >> >> http://www.wikimedia.org.au/w/index.php?title=Resolutions&action=history >> >> >> ______________ >> >> **C4 Linkage project * >> >> "there are questions as to its fit with our Statement of Purpose"—I don't >> see an argument anywhere supporting this claim. Like the CAV's answers to >> questions by one committee member about compliance, the answers depend on >> how those questions are framed. Presumably the previous committee thought >> the project fit with the SoP. >> >> "The current spending is authorised by a resolution of the previous >> committee, but we have the option to rescind this." But one of the problems >> in squibbing on this funding is that the chapter signed a *contract*with the >> other parties. Why sign a binding contract if you're going to >> flush it down the pan in the hope you won't be sued, even if suing is >> unlikely? It's a pretty bad smell for the chapter's reputation at the very >> least. Who (including the WMF) would sign a contract with WMAU after that? >> This sits oddly with a generally loose approach to spending, without >> clear signs of improving the performance of the chapter: >> >> I see proposals to move from a free email system to one that costs $50 a >> year per person ($50? really?), and that the discourse on the site is so >> sensitive that a much more expensive non-shared option is being considered. >> Since the site remains a ghost town, I can't see the purpose in bumping up >> expenditure on it by one cent. >> >> Even snail-mail looks like incurring more costs (redirect fee, etc). May >> I ask why a mail box is used in the first place? If someone has to have the >> key to it, why not mail to their home to save costs and expedite >> communication? It's very unsuitable in a huge continent to assign one >> location for a paid mailbox. >> >> May I ask why nearly a thousand dollars was set aside in the August >> meeting for some online course "experiment" in ... what ... company board >> membership skills? Really? I thought the election would have sorted out who >> was competent to serve on the committee. >> >> And is the Committee pursuing the idea of spending the grand some of >> $5,000 each quarter to ferry to, and accommodate and feed the committee, in >> a different location in Australia? For the Sydney meeting last year, only >> *one >> member* turned up. How is that "Fit to Purpose" or value for money? >> >> http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Proposal:Quarterly_board_meetings >> >> ______________ >> Minutes of previous meeting: >> >> "It was noted that most present were not at the meeting, but that as >> Graham had prepared the minutes and Craig had agreed to them, an overall >> majority of the previous committee could be judged in favour." >> >> I'm not sure that's a logical assumption. >> >> ______________ >> *Finance report* >> >> Two red links for September and Octover reports. Where are they? >> >> ______________ >> >> "The World War I event proceeded, but nobody on the committee was >> present, so a report will be sought from the organiser for the next >> meeting." >> >> No ACTION statement, so I can't imagine anything's been done on that one. >> >> >> >> Just sayin', members. >> >> Tony >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >> Wikimediaaufirstname.lastname@example.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > Wikimediaauemail@example.com > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > Wikimediaaufirstname.lastname@example.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > >
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