Basicamente ele diz que a WMF tava ajudando o Chico desde o começo (o que é verdade e eu posso comprovar pq eu mesmo que pus o chico em contacto com eles a mais de um mês), que o programa de ajuda legal não se aplica ainda pq o chico ainda não está sendo acusado formalmente de nada, que eles contactaram os especialistas em leis brasileiras e eles dizeram que não era pra se preocupar pq pela analise da situação o Gilmar não tem como criar um processo em cima dos fatos. E que eles continuam a monitorar a situação e queriam que a comunidade permanecesse unida e nao criasse uma cruzada contra a fundação. _____ *Béria Lima*
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* On 1 December 2012 13:24, Gabriela Cortês <[email protected]>wrote: > Obrigada Beria. Não entendi o que ele disse. Obrigada se alguém puder > explicar. > > Gabi > > ------------------------------ > *De:* Béria Lima <[email protected]> > *Para:* Gabriela Cortês <[email protected]>; Lista de > emails da Wikimedia Brasil. <[email protected]> > *Enviadas:* Sábado, 1 de Dezembro de 2012 14:19 > *Assunto:* Re: [Wikimedia Brasil] Statement from WMF General Counsel > > O pessoal tava reclamando que a WMF não tava ajudando o Chico (que tava a > ser investigado pela PF a pedido do Gilmar Mendes) > > Essa ai é a resposta do advogado da WMF > _____ > *Béria Lima* > > *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a > construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* > > > On 1 December 2012 13:09, Gabriela Cortês <[email protected] > > wrote: > > ? > > ------------------------------ > *De:* Ricardo Navalha <[email protected]> > *Para:* [email protected] > *Enviadas:* Sábado, 1 de Dezembro de 2012 12:42 > *Assunto:* [Wikimedia Brasil] Statement from WMF General Counsel > > I want to thank the Portuguese Wikipedia community in Brazil for their > hard work as Wikimedians and especially their dedication to and passion for > the free distribution of truthful information. Like other projects, > Portuguese Wikipedia represents an amazing collaboration and building of an > encyclopedia that will survive for many ages. You share in the honor of > constructing something great for the benefit of others. > Although I am not a Portuguese Wikimedian, if I may say so, I am a bit > concerned about seeing the situation in Brazil on Portuguese Wikipedia > somewhat escalating. May I please suggest consideration of calm and > restraint in deciding how the community responds to the situation. > At the Foundation, we have no tolerance for censorship of truthful > information. Because of legal ethical rules that apply in the United > States, however, my legal team may represent only the Foundation, not > community members unfortunately. Nevertheless, with a clear understanding > that we are not the lawyers for those members, we often help support them > with our extensive global experience when the members are faced with > serious unjustified threats. In doing so, of course, we rely on the > community to follow its own policies, such as NPOV, and to take the > necessary steps to ensure that contributions are factual, legal, and > non-infringing. As set out in our terms of > use<http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use> , > WMF does not control or influence the content contributed by community > members. > In the case of the investigation that has involved one of the members of > the community, we fear there is a misunderstanding since we are genuinely > surprised by the summaries that have been provided to us. Although we may > be mistaken, we actually thought WMF acted quite appropriately in this case > with a close focus on the issue. Although I prefer not to go into too much > detail given the ongoing matter, as I understand, the Wikimedian approached > us when he received an apparent request to appear for questioning as part > of an investigation. At that time, at our expense, one of my most senior > attorneys at WMF contacted legal counsel in Brazil to seek a better > understanding of the risks. Legal counsel advised us about the case in > detail, suggesting that, under the circumstances, the risk should be > relatively low if certain things (as we understood them) were in fact so. > It appeared to us that the Wikimedian agreed. We nevertheless cautioned > that the Wikimedian attend any meeting with police officials with legal > representation to ensure his rights were adequately protected against > unjustified claims. > At that time, there were preliminary inquiries as to whether the > Foundation would pay for legal counsel. Under the Legal Fees Assistance > Program<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal_and_Community_Advocacy/Legal_Fees_Assistance_Program> > and > the Defense of Contributors > policy<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal_and_Community_Advocacy/Legal_Policies#Defense_of_Contributors>, > certain threshold criteria must normally be met. One such criterion is that > the user must usually be named as a defendant in a legal action, which was > not so here. We nevertheless were in close contact with the Wikimedian as > we saw it. If the investigation had escalated, we would have reassessed the > need for additional support. > In a later update, we understood that the Wikimedian had obtained legal > counsel and that the two attended a productive meeting with the > investigator. We also had our Brazilian legal counsel review certain > investigation documents, which confirmed our assessment. > There was a request that WMF staff members be interviewed on the community > policies applicable to Portuguese Wikipedia. As a general matter, we are > not familiar with the policies applicable to Portuguese Wikipedia. We > suggested that the Portuguese community play a role in this regard. > We were watching the situation closely and providing guidance where we > were able. We care deeply about our community, and, in cases of serious > unjustified allegations, we seek to help support the community. Indeed, > these types of cases are not uncommon. Experienced in international > matters, we are constantly involved in rebutting unjustified allegations > worldwide, and, if I may say so, we are often successful at it. > Again I believe that the community should not aggravate the situation to > avoid misunderstandings or misperceptions which may unjustly expose > community members to unfounded legal threats. For this reason, I reiterate > my recommendation of consideration of calm and restraint in assessing and > responding to the situation. > Thank you for your genuine concern about free expression and your > indignation against unjust censorship. Thank you for collecting and > developing educational content under a free license or in the public domain > for the benefit of the world. > With warm regards, > Geoffbrigham <http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usu%C3%A1rio(a):Geoffbrigham> > > > http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada/geral/Not%C3%ADcia-crime_de_Gilmar_Mendes_contra_mim_por_edi%C3%A7%C3%B5es_na_P%C3%A9dia_(29nov2012) > > _______________________________________________ > WikimediaBR-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediabr-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > WikimediaBR-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediabr-l > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > WikimediaBR-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediabr-l > >
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