I'm familiar with the marketing reasons for encouraging people to give more
frequently, enough people are willing to give more in total if they can
spread payments to make this worthwhile. I just don't think it wise or
efficient not to give people the option of an annual payment. Aside from
cheapskates like myself who would baulk at a monthly commitment, transaction
charges are bound to arise somewhere along the line.

There is also the issue of lifetime value, I have my suspicions that the
more frequently you remind people of a direct debit the more likely they are
to review it. So It may be true that a monthly direct debit is only worth
two years worth of that amount, but an annual one is in the longterm worth
many times more.

As for donors v members, do we have plans to offer membership to donors?

WereSpielChequers (who still supports four organisations through annual
direct debits started in the 1980s)

On 17 September 2011 08:46, Gordon Joly <[email protected]> wrote:

> **
>
> We have just switched from annual to monthly for our "family" RSPB
> membership payment.
>
> Instead of 25 quid we pay 3 x 12 = 36 quid: we can spread the payments and
> the RSPB gets an 11 quid bonus.
>
> RSPB was mentioned by  Anonymouse at the last London Wikimeet (#49) as a
> good model of membership for a charity.
>
> http://www.rspb.org.uk/
>
> *****
>
>    - Over a million members, including over 195,000 youth members.
>    - A staff of over 1,300 people and over 13,000 volunteers.
>    - Resources available for charitable purposes in 2007 was £78.6
>    million.
>
> *****
>
> Ha! Small fry!
>
>
> Gordo
>
>
>
> On 16/09/2011 23:19, WereSpielChequers wrote:
>
> Monthly and quarterly are nice to haves, but presumably most members will
> want to do an annual payment for their annual renewal?
>
> WereSpielChequers
>
> On 16 September 2011 23:05, Michael Peel <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> We're working on finding an easy way to give donors the choice of monthly
>> or quarterly direct debits, but we haven't got it working quite yet. For
>> now, if you want to donate by direct debit each month, then you can do so by
>> visiting:
>> http://directdebit.wikimedia.org.uk/index_monthly.html
>>
>> Hopefully we'll have a more integrated solution working in the near
>> future.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>>
>> On 16 Sep 2011, at 22:59, Chris Keating wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > This is fantastic! Well done!
>> >
>> > Thank you. We have taken a shortcut, which is to outsource the absolute
>> maximum of the administration involved in Direct Debiting. Once we are on a
>> firmer administrative footing we can bring it back in-house if needs be.
>> >
>> >
>> > Hmmm... I just tried to set up a direct debit and it seems the only
>> > option for the frequency is quarterly. I want to donate monthly. Why
>> > can't I? Obviously, the fees are greater for 3 donations of £2, say,
>> > than for one donation of £6, but I think you'll get a lot more takers
>> > if you offer monthly direct debits for the simple reason that people
>> > tend to be paid monthly.
>> >
>> > We are set up for monthly and quarterly direct debits. I'm not quite
>> sure why that form insists on quarterly, I doubt it will continue to insist
>> after we speak to the suppliers on Monday, as we have other test forms that
>> are definitely accepting monthly DDs.
>> >
>> > You're right about the advantage of monthly DDs. during the fundraiser
>> we'll test prompting different amounts/frequencies and different layouts of
>> form to see which gives us the best long-term income.
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
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