On 13 June 2012 09:19, Jon Davies <[email protected]> wrote:
> Great to have you steering this Charles.

Thanks for your input Jon, as well as support so far.

<snip>

> Lesson - we need to support and protect our newbies. On-line support
> material can do this to some extent.

100% agree. In my reply to Gordon I also suggested that the project
has a "new take", and here's a sample:

A: "I learn  best by doing. I wanted to learn about notability, and so
I added {{CSD A7}} to many articles. If you look at my User talk page
..."

B: "I learn best by what I would call a scientific approach. I wanted
to learn about notability, so I hung around at [[Category:Speedy
deletions]] for a while. Interesting: there is a triage going on. Some
tags, such as that idiot A's, are quickly removed, or contested with
{{hang on}}, and those articles are saved. Some articles are obvious
rubbish and are zapped pretty much instantly. But there is a third
class that hang around for quite a while, and obviously the first few
admins who look think they are tricksy decisions. I'd like to know
more about this third type."

While B is clearly doing a whole lot better, that's not my point. If
the default explanation is that they both should start by reading WP:N
- then the default explanation can be criticised. The new project is
more about gathering up what we learn by thinking about A and B, and
C, another fellow, who did learn by reading WP:N. Etc. And writing the
lesson.

Charles

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