Roger,

I would ask that you resign from the board. As it is, it will look as
though your directorship in WMUK is a factor in enabling you to get
consultancy work for yourself, your company and your associates, and I
can't see how either the appearance or the reality of that would be
compatible with the first and second Nolan requirements.

http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trustee_Code_of_Conduct#Nolan_Committee_Requirements

Andreas



On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Roger Bamkin <[email protected]>wrote:

> Name change of my user account? That is an odd request. I did look at the
> policy and it says
> Talk to the user
>
> If you see a username that is problematic but was not obviously created in
> bad faith, politely draw the user's attention to this policy, and try to
> encourage them to create a new account with a different username. If you
> want, you can use the 
> {{subst:uw-username<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Uw-username>
> }} or 
> {{subst:uw-coi-username<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Uw-coi-username>
> }} template for this.
>
> I'm sorry if I'm not replying to all the inquiries here, but there are a
> lot. I chose Victuallers Ltd as its the name I am associated with and I
> wasn't aware that it had a promotional value. Changing my user name is not
> an issue if it causes hassle. (I would in retrospect have chosen my own
> name to edit under.) Can some send me the link of where this user name
> debate is in progress?
>
> I realise that this is a very interesting debate but do try and remember
> that these facts that are being discovered are public knowledge. The
> project was announced at Wikimania, no less, with a video that set out the
> projects plans and expectations. The video made it clear that the minister
> for tourism was involved and that this was not a WMUK project. The project
> does not involve me in being paid to create articles. I am creating plaques
> based on QRpedia, I am supplying training and I am encouraging people to
> use and edit wikipedia (and open street map et al).
>
> The ownership of the QRpedia domains has been documented in WMUK minutes
> and it was obvious when I made a presentation at the Wikiconference in 2011
> (before I was elected as a director). As Chris has noted the transfer of
> the intellectual property to WMUK has run on for months. There is no
> conspiracy. The rights to QRpedia are intended as a gift and cannot be just
> demanded.
>
> Those who voted for me and/or attended the last  wiki AGM/conference are
> aware that I was (and am) offering my expertise as a consutant. These are
> the same skills as I was paid for at the end of the Monmouthpedia project.
> All of this was overseen by the board. The COI conflict meant that I gladly
> stepped down as Chair but I was asked to stay on as a board member. The
> board agreed to manage the COI conflict, which I am obviously pleased to
> comply with.
>
> I'm hoping that a lleast clears up some of the debate.
>
> regards
>
> Roger Bamkin (prev. known as Victuallers?)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 19 September 2012 07:59, Doug Weller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I see a request to block Roger's User:Victuallers account as it is in
>> contravention of our Username policy on promotional names -
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Username_policy#Promotional_names
>>
>> Normally for an account this old (2007) we might not ask for a change
>> of name, but given the circumstances I think a name change might be a
>> good idea.
>>
>> Doug Weller
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Andreas Kolbe <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > I've located some more information about Geovation now by myself:
>> >
>> > https://challenge.geovation.org.uk/a/dtd/119163-16422
>> >
>> > Wales Coast Path only: What theme of the challenge does your idea
>> address?:
>> > 3. Community engagement What problem are you trying to solve? : Green
>> > tourism: what's around me? What makes it different?
>> >
>> > How will your idea work? : There are two parts, fist we meet local
>> groups
>> > and show them how to add information onto a Wikipedia page: and that's
>> > really simple! Secondly we show them how their articles can be
>> geotagged.
>> > The best part is enjoying a walk down the path with a smart phone, with
>> any
>> > AR tagged articles shown through the camera, informing the User
>> (tourist or
>> > local) about what's around them: history of that unusual building or
>> where's
>> > the nearest Young Farmers Club? What's the name of that mountain, and
>> > where's the nearest toilet! Take a look at MonmouthpediA on Wikipedia
>> and
>> > multiply it by 10!
>> >
>> > How will it provide a solution to the Challenge? : It's the best answer
>> > possible! The local WI (or Merched y Wawr) will bring along old
>> photographs,
>> > which would be scanned in and uploaded, and their locations geotagged.
>> They
>> > would learn new skills on how to edit existing articles and how to
>> create
>> > new ones. The local chapel could write about the history of their
>> chapel,
>> > and so could the local cafe - including the opening times! Schools could
>> > show off their latest Brochure for Parents and even nature clubs could
>> write
>> > about the local habitats. This is about: bringing people together in
>> order
>> > to inform walkers, cyclists and joggers what's around them.
>> >
>> > What is the stage of development? What help and investment you need to
>> build
>> > it?: Because Wikipedia is so simple, it's ideal for this project.
>> > Communities know about the geography and history, and culture of their
>> area
>> > MUCH better than an app writer or web-author sitting in his office in
>> > Manchester! Wikimedia UK would be asked to run the scheme, employing
>> > Wikipedians, just as the National Library does in London... and the
>> National
>> > Museum etc. Their help would be crucial. Welsh Wicipedians have also
>> shown
>> > their enthusiasm and would filter out any unwanted vandalism. Wikipedia
>> has
>> > a proven track record: why re-create the wheel all the time? It's an app
>> > which is already installed on most iPads and iPhones! Pure and simple.
>> >
>> > Neighbourhood Challenge only: How would you use Ordnance Survey data in
>> your
>> > solution? : See below.
>> >
>> > Wales Coast Path only: How will you use geographic information in your
>> > solution? : Yes! Geotagging on Wikipedia is so easy! One line and the
>> whole
>> > article pops up! Through Layar (invisible to the User), we would view
>> > through the camera's phone what's around us, and automatically a number
>> of
>> > Wikipedian "W"s pop up wherever the article's location is. For example,
>> an
>> > User takes a look at a cluster of mountains, and immediately the "W"
>> shows
>> > that there is an article written, so the user chooses a mountain with
>> his or
>> > her finger and they're straight into the article! And not just Cymraeg
>> and
>> > English: there are over 250 languages on Wikipedia. All articles would
>> be
>> > geographically and traditionally (OS) tagged.
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.geovation.org.uk/teams-win-innovation-funding-wales-coast-path-challenge/
>> >
>> > Living Paths – Roger Bamkin and Robin Owain of Monmouthpedia were the
>> pair
>> > behind this idea which will allow communities along the path to create a
>> > Wikipedia page and post stories about their communities allowing diverse
>> > local information to become accessible. Awarded: £17,500.
>> >
>> > As I see it, this is a programme whereby Wikimedia UK pays Wikipedians
>> to
>> > get members of the public to become volunteer editors. You can see it
>> as an
>> > editor recruitment programme, and as a programme to secure unemployed
>> > Wikipedian friends paid employment. There has been practically no
>> discussion
>> > of this on wiki to date.
>> >
>> >
>> > Andreas
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Thomas Morton
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hmm, well this is getting Murkier still. Have people violated these
>> >> principles.
>> >>
>> >> Someone on Jimbo's talk linked to this article:
>> >> http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=25440
>> >>
>> >> Which:
>> >>
>> >> a) Identifies Roger as WMUK director with implication he is acting in
>> >> official capacity
>> >> b) Says that Gibraltar approached WMUK
>> >>
>> >> I appreciated this is the media, so inaccuracey is likely. But I
>> suggest
>> >> we quickly resolve the following issues:
>> >>
>> >> * Did Gibraltar approach WMUK, or is this incorrect & they approached
>> the
>> >> Monmouthpedia orgnaisers?
>> >> * If they did not approach WMUK, did they think, or were they led to
>> think
>> >> they were approaching WMUK by whoever they did approach?
>> >> * Has Roger used his position as WMUK director to obtain this Gibraltar
>> >> contract?
>> >>
>> >> I'm AGF that nothing untoward has happened here, but I suggest a
>> statement
>> >> be issued with some urgency to clear these matters up. Or it may well
>> >> backfire on the charity.
>> >>
>> >> Tom
>> >>
>> >> On 18 September 2012 08:55, Jon Davies <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Indeed - I think it is even mentioned in one of our many governance
>> >>> documents.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 18 September 2012 08:52, Gordon Joly <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Whilst there may be no precise misdemeanor, can we assume that our
>> >>>> charity (Wikimedia UK) follows and applies the Nolan Principles to
>> all
>> >>>> Trustees?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> http://www.archive.official-documents.co.uk/document/parlment/nolan/nolan.htm
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Gordo
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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