Training led and run by volunteers has very little to do with the objections to the plan, which is about allocation of Chapter resources, focus, and staff time. I don't see why we're running these two objections together.
- Andrew. On Friday, 28 September 2012, Thomas Dalton wrote: > I'll say again, the issue here is the plan in aggregate. Specific examples > aren't really important - there is plenty of room for reasonable people to > come to different conclusions on a specific budget item. What we should be > able to agree on though, is that this plan, when considered as a whole, is > problematic. > On Sep 28, 2012 10:44 PM, "Andrew Gray" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 28 September 2012 18:40, Thomas Dalton <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > Training is something the chapter is already involved in and should >> > therefore ensure is done well, since it reflects on the chapter. Having >> > individuals contacting potential trainees directly appears >> unprofessional >> > and leads to an inefficient and inconsistent response. >> >> I don't think it's producing bad results, but perhaps I'm biased. >> >> I've been spending the past six months doing *exactly this*; contacting >> organisations directly, usually through personal contacts, arranging >> training, and (with the invaluable help of volunteers) delivering it. I >> have kept the chapter informed, but the sessions are pretty much >> independent of the ongoing WMUK training events, though they provide >> support (laptops, printed sheets, etc). I do not believe the chapter are in >> any way unhappy with this arrangement; they've had plenty of opportunity to >> say if they are! >> >> It's certainly more efficient than asking the chapter to do it - you >> yourself have argued on this very mailing list that they are overworked, >> and trying to do too much. To demand it be centralised is to give them yet >> more work to do, on top of the existing load. It also introduces extra >> inefficiencies - they won't be going through the same direct connections, >> which makes the offer of a workshop less likely to be accepted, and it's >> much easier to arrange a session when the person delivering it is also the >> person negotiating it. >> >> Yes, random people emailing random contacts offering training is bad. But >> if we trust the person to deliver the training professionally, and we are >> willing to send them out there to represent the community in doing so, I >> can't imagine any reason we wouldn't trust them to reach out and organise >> the sessions as well. >> >> -- >> - Andrew Gray >> [email protected] >> >> >> -- >> - Andrew Gray >> [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >> >> >> -- - Andrew Gray [email protected]
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