I'll say again, the issue here is the plan in aggregate. Specific examples aren't really important - there is plenty of room for reasonable people to come to different conclusions on a specific budget item. What we should be able to agree on though, is that this plan, when considered as a whole, is problematic. On Sep 28, 2012 10:44 PM, "Andrew Gray" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 28 September 2012 18:40, Thomas Dalton <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Training is something the chapter is already involved in and should > > therefore ensure is done well, since it reflects on the chapter. Having > > individuals contacting potential trainees directly appears unprofessional > > and leads to an inefficient and inconsistent response. > > I don't think it's producing bad results, but perhaps I'm biased. > > I've been spending the past six months doing *exactly this*; contacting > organisations directly, usually through personal contacts, arranging > training, and (with the invaluable help of volunteers) delivering it. I > have kept the chapter informed, but the sessions are pretty much > independent of the ongoing WMUK training events, though they provide > support (laptops, printed sheets, etc). I do not believe the chapter are in > any way unhappy with this arrangement; they've had plenty of opportunity to > say if they are! > > It's certainly more efficient than asking the chapter to do it - you > yourself have argued on this very mailing list that they are overworked, > and trying to do too much. To demand it be centralised is to give them yet > more work to do, on top of the existing load. It also introduces extra > inefficiencies - they won't be going through the same direct connections, > which makes the offer of a workshop less likely to be accepted, and it's > much easier to arrange a session when the person delivering it is also the > person negotiating it. > > Yes, random people emailing random contacts offering training is bad. But > if we trust the person to deliver the training professionally, and we are > willing to send them out there to represent the community in doing so, I > can't imagine any reason we wouldn't trust them to reach out and organise > the sessions as well. > > -- > - Andrew Gray > [email protected] > > > -- > - Andrew Gray > [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > >
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