Hi Thank you Andrew, although I must confess that I thought that my English was very good I apparently chose the wrong words. What I meant to convey was "unusual" and unusual enough to warrant further review…
Jan-Bart On 29 Sep 2012, at 21:09, Andrew Turvey <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Jan-Bart and others, > > I would hope we can wait until we hear the results of the review before > jumping to the conclusion that what has gone on is "highly irregular" (which > incidentally, clearly is an accusation of wrong doing). There are certainly > allegations that have been made that are of serious concern but I would hope > people are able to wait to see the evidence and the report before assuming > they are well founded. > > In the meantime, everyone involved is clearly going through a very difficult > time so I hope we are able to pull together, work through this and we can > come through a stronger chapter at the end. > > Regards, > > On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Jan-Bart de Vreede <[email protected]> > wrote: > Hi > > It doesn't work like that, as I indicated there have been some (highly) > irregular activities in the past months (which is not the same as what you > state below). The timing is such that a decision on Payment Processing (which > is indeed not the same as fundraising or applying to the FDC, but is actually > quite separate) had to be made now. After what I know was a lot of > consultation both ways this is the conclusion that we arrived at. > > Please don't read more into this than that. Its not a power grab and its not > an accusation of wrongdoing, its what we feel is the right thing to do under > the difficult circumstances. > > (oh and payment processing is actually work, it does not get done > automatically) > > Jan-Bart de Vreede > Wikimedia Board of Trustees > > > On 29 Sep 2012, at 19:07, Katie Chan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 29/09/2012 16:28, Jan-bart de Vreede wrote: > >> Hi James (and others) > >> > >> What I find puzzling in your reasoning is that you automatically assume > >> bad faith on the part of the WMF. At this point everyone should be > >> concerned about the fact that over the past months we have had several > >> (highly) irregular activities within the UK chapter. It is important > >> that we (as in the movement) conduct a thorough review to see what the > >> complete facts are so that we can make sure that we can learn from this > >> and draw proper conclusions. > > > > Woah, hold it right there Jan-bart. What *I* find puzzling is how you > > (personally and WMF in general) assumes that Wikimedia UK has done wrong > > before this supposedly independent review has started never mind been > > completed. > > > > KTC > > > > -- > > Experience is a good school but the fees are high. > > - Heinrich Heine > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia UK mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > > > > -- > Andrew Turvey > -- > 07403 216 991 > @AndrewTurvey > http://www.facebook.com/andrew.turvey > http://en.wikipedia.org/User:AndrewRT > http://englishwikipedian.blogspot.co.uk/ > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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