It's worth noting that a privilege granted to the membership is something
with which we have to be happy saying "sorry, you can't do X, you're not a
member".


On 28 June 2013 18:12, Katherine Bavage
<[email protected]>wrote:

> The page I linked to in my opening email -
> http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Membership/Promoting - discusses this
> exactly and suggests how we could describe the benefit of membership to
> potential members.
>
> So, to return to Stevie's point, when Gordo, says:
>
> "This issue is not about privacy or openness. It is about what a member
> gets that others do not.  At the moment, voting at the AGM comes to mind,
> paying dues and *not much else." *(my emphasis) the question that
> historically we haven't answered is: *should* members get privileges?
>
> How does that square with the fact other wikimedia chapter memberships
> don't really seem to get specific benefits and privileges? Would it be
> consistent with what the movement and our chapter in it are trying to
> achieve?
>
> I think the answer is 'probably not'. It's not up to me to decide, but I
> don't think we can afford to keep getting stuck/vague on this point. It
> will harm recruitment.
>
> I think the descriptions of what people can gain through joining that I
> laid out on the page sum up why new and established editors would benefit
> from becoming members without offering them discounts, private emails,
> special extras etc.
>
> I am up for the idea of a lapel pin though - it might be nice for people
> to have this to demonstrate their support.
>
>
> *Katherine Bavage *
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> On 28 June 2013 15:37, Gordon Joly <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 28/06/13 15:31, Stevie Benton wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for your email. The membership email is made openly available in
>>> accordance with our values. To ask a genuine question, do you think members
>>> in general would prefer it to be private and would you prefer it to be
>>> private?
>>>
>>
>>
>> This issue is not about privacy or openness. It is about what a member
>> gets that others do not. At the moment, voting at the AGM comes to mind,
>> paying dues and not much else.
>>
>> Oh, and that warm fuzzy feeling and something to tell the grandchildren
>> about....
>>
>>
>> Gordo
>>
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