Actually, you can hide the top and side bars as well, fairly straightforwardly.

For once, I'm with mike. A decent front end dev with a bit of patience really 
can do anything you want with the wiki front page.

Forget the anti-cabal rhetoric for a minute. I'm a big fan of a more inviting 
landing page, but duplicating the front page will only lead to a confusing UX, 
and is honestly unnecessary.

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On 11 Jun 2014, at 06:05, Michael Peel <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> On 10 Jun 2014, at 17:12, Jon Davies <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> We have smartened it up already through the support of UK Wikipedians but it 
>> has its limits.
> 
> This is the bit I don't understand. What does the current proposal do that 
> *can't* be done on the wiki? Why do we *have* to have these non-editable 
> pages? If it's just visual content, then that can be done on the wikis fairly 
> straightforwardly *. If it's to add technical features (e.g. in-line contact 
> forms etc.), then I can understand this move - it's analogous to how 
> donate.wikimedia.org.uk isn't on-wiki as that uses technical features that 
> the wiki can't support. My understanding is it's just the former, though, 
> which is why this doesn't make sense to me.
> 
> * The exception being the side-bars / page surround, but that's an intrinsic 
> part of the Wikimedia/Wikipedia brand identity (it's what people recognise as 
> 'Wikipedia' beyond the logo) so should really be kept regardless.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
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