Hi Harry,

That may sadly be true now that we have a lot of staff members, but 
historically that wasn't the case - I know that I volunteered a lot of my time 
to work on this sort of work, I know that Seddon also did so. I personally 
found the work I did very much more rewarding than I would have found going out 
on the high street with a coin collection box, given the cost:benefit ratio, 
and I'd hope that others would feel the same.

Thanks,
Mike

On 20 Jul 2014, at 00:33, HJ Mitchell <[email protected]> wrote:

> Mike, on your point 4, I don't think you'll realistically find volunteers who 
> want to do this sort of back-end work (and there are probably good reasons - 
> eg data protection - for it to be done by staff). 
> 
> I don't feel strongly enough to comment on nay of your other points, 
> especially not at this time of night, but I'm certainly not going to oppose 
> more volunteer support!
>  
> Harry Mitchell
> http://enwp.org/User:HJ
> Phone: +44 (0) 7507 536971
> Skype: harry_j_mitchell
> From: Michael Peel <[email protected]>
> To: UK Wikimedia mailing list <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Sunday, 20 July 2014, 0:07
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK are looking for a Fundraising       
> Assistant
> 
> Hi Richard/WMUK staff,
> 
> I'm rather puzzled by this. Given that:
> 
> 1) WMUK cannot raise funds through the Wikimedia annual fundraising campaign 
> any more, which means that the number of donors through that method will not 
> be increasing, and that the apparent alignment of this position with the 
> fundraising period (the position wraps up at the end of Jan 2015) is rather 
> misleading (unless WMUK is planning to compete against the annual fundraiser);
> 2) WMUK already has a staff member who is focused on fundraising, and many 
> other staff members who can help with the administration work;
> 3) This position wasn't included in WMUK's FDC application last year, with 
> the implication that funding for this position is not guaranteed in the long 
> run, despite the comment that the position "may be renewable based on 
> evaluation of its effect";
> 4) Volunteers are being excluded from assisting with this work;
> 5) WMUK has so far done nothing to seek funding outside of individual donors 
> to the Wikimedia movement via the Wikimedia websites, and has not shared any 
> plans to do anything along these lines any time soon,
> 
> how is this staff position being justified? Wouldn't it be better to invest 
> in volunteer support work instead, given the current funding situation?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
> 
> On 18 Jul 2014, at 14:26, Richard Nevell <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Wikimedia UK are now accepting applications for a Fundraising Assistant to 
> > support the delivery of the charity's fundraising programme, in particular 
> > working with our donors and undertaking the essential administrative tasks 
> > involved with donor stewardship.
> > 
> > If you are interested in applying, more details can be found here. The 
> > deadline for applications is 5pm BST on Friday 1st August 2014. 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Richard Nevell
> > 
> > -- 
> > Richard Nevell
> > Assistant Office Manager
> > Wikimedia UK
> > +44 (0) 20 7065 0753
> > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and 
> > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered 
> > Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. 
> > United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia 
> > movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who 
> > operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
> > Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control 
> > over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.
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