On 14 September 2017 at 08:21, Nick Poole <nick.po...@cilip.org.uk> wrote:
> Indeed, and congratulations to Lucy and the team on securing this progress
> with Tullie House. I do think it is important to acknowledge progress as
> much as it is to keep pushing for better practice.

Yes, Lucy's reaching out worked and I'm grateful for that effort.

However, as far as I'm aware, nothing was planned, and indeed nothing
has happened for a few years now, to address institutional copyfraud
in the UK, despite some of the most globally famous cases occurring in
this country, such as the National Portrait Gallery.[1] Shamefully,
even standard texts that professionals refer to for UK IP law,
incorrectly treat "sweat of the brow" as being definitive, rather than
it being legally untested and hypothetical.

> With this in mind, are we content that we are doing everything we can as a
> community to make it easier for museums to do the right thing than to
> default to a risk-averse legacy practice?

With regard to community, the previous UK GLAM-wiki network that
started the global movement around the time I was the UK national GLAM
coordinator has gradually evaporated, but has left behind assets like
the Outreach wiki. The GLAM community is gradually becoming directed
by the WMF, which considering recent events with some chapters, I
think is actually a good thing both in terms of funding, longevity and
reputation. If you are looking for case studies and material to
provide to institutions then get in touch with Sadads[2], though as
the chapter has produced materials and reports in the past, including
advice for institutions wanting to provide better open access, the
starting point should be the CEO reviewing existing assets with her
staff.

Without volunteers prepared to invest weeks of their time creating
more materials and planning meetings with GLAMs, WMUK must rely on its
full time staff to do most of this work. If educating or simply
prompting GLAMs on their open access strategies by truly managing
relationships, rather than just sending out leaflets, is not in the
coming annual plan, perhaps the WMUK trustees should have a chat with
the CEO about how to move this forward and for the chapter to become
seen as a reliable institution to turn to for advice, rather than
leaving it to the tertiary education bodies which have been leading UK
improvements to, and interpretation of, Open Access or avoiding
copyfraud.

Museums/GLAMs are going to stay risk averse with their collections. If
we presume this will stay true for the foreseeable future, then "risk
averse" needs to include avoiding the reputational risk of copyfraud
as a more urgent issue than saving some money by never bothering
correctly to assess the copyright status of media and artefacts. If we
take two obvious case studies familiar to WMUK:

(A) The British Museum is a leader in open access, making its main
database open to the public online several years ago and supporting
the Portable Antiquities Scheme database (PAS) which has an excellent
licensing strategy for content and photographs, so that reuse on our
projects is actually encouraged.[3] The main database has
understandable licensing restrictions, primarily because artefact
photographs and catalogue text were produced long before current
expectations for open licensing existed. Right now is an excellent
time for WMUK to refresh its contacts at the BM as there is an
opportunity to influence planned changes to the way this works. The
Tullie House case is a good starting point to ensure that the BM
changes its loan procedures to never have restrictions on photography
for ancient artefacts that cannot be damaged by being photographed,
and ensure than no receiving institution does anything which even
looks like copyfraud.

(B) The Imperial War museum the best case study of how not to do it in
the UK. In the last two years the IWM has systematically watermarked
all their 500,000+ online images and videos, even though the vast
majority of their collection is public domain. Their archive was
created by the Government and has the single purpose of being held in
trust for the benefit of the public, so their odd approach of damaging
the images with watermarks and falsely claiming all media as being
their commercial copyright, even public domain media taken from other
archives, to ensure that they can cash in and use the archive as a
retail outlet, is not just bizarre, but blatant and deliberate
copyfraud. Yes, they have been a hobby-horse of mine for a few years
now, but we have no better counter-example and their approach has
actually got worse in the last 4 years. I doubt their current
management team care much about anyone making public statements about
their copyfraud, so the only hope of changing their misuse of public
domain material would be to foster contacts on the IWM board of
trustees. As an independent volunteer I'm free to write to the
trustees to make a case, in a way that the chapter never would; given
my understanding of their recent managerial changes/issues and
organizational challenges, I suspect that harder approach may be more
effective than spending another four years trying soft soap.

P.S. Nick, while you are here, at your next meeting could you ask your
CEO to ensure that all emails from chapter domain addresses are
properly archived. If there is a PR, legal, or financial incident and,
say, a journalist is making claims about the chapter, you should be
able to definitively refer to your records, which legally includes
chapter emails.

Cheers,
Fae

Links
1. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Portrait_Gallery_and_Wikimedia_Foundation_copyright_dispute
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Astinson_(WMF)
3. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae/Project_list/PAS
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> From: Wikimediauk-l [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> Behalf Of Sara Thomas
> Sent: 13 September 2017 19:06
>
>
> To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Copyfraud by the British Museum
>
>
>
> Great to see the movement on this!  My experience in the museums sector
> during my MGS residency in 2015-2016 taught me that these kinds of moves are
> much more significant that we sometimes realise in terms of organisational
> culture, and I would wholeheartedly support the notion that this is the most
> that could be asked of them at this point.
>
>
>
> Sara Thomas
>
> [[User:lirazelf]]
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Wikimediauk-l <wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of
> Lucy Crompton-Reid <lucy.crompton-r...@wikimedia.org.uk>
> Sent: 13 September 2017 16:05
> To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Copyfraud by the British Museum
>
>
>
> Dear all
>
>
>
> I've heard back from Tullie House Museum and they are changing the no
> photography signs on the exhibition to remove the word copyright. However my
> understanding is that they do have a restriction on photography for the
> items loaned by the British Museum. My feeling is that this is the most we
> can ask Tullie House at this point, but that it highlights the need for
> continued advocacy about copyright and licensing issues to the cultural
> sector generally, and to the BM more specifically.
>
>
>
> Best
>
> Lucy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 31 August 2017 at 10:28, Lucy Crompton-Reid
> <lucy.crompton-r...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi Fae
>
>
>
> You may not have seen my message to this list a few weeks ago that I had
> been in touch with the Director at Tullie House Museum, who thinks the
> copyright notice may be a mistake on their part - however he needed to check
> with the curator responsible who was on holiday at the time. I suspect the
> curator will be back now so this is a timely reminder to chase this up,
> which I will do!
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Lucy
>
>
>
> On 30 August 2017 at 19:50, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ping :-)
>
> It's been over a month, does anyone know if the Tullie House Museum
> has removed the misleading copyright notices?
>
> If there has been no contact yet, I'd be happy to send off a letter as
> a long term Wikimedia Commons volunteer to the BM and the THM for an
> official response that I can add to the record on Commons.
>
> Thanks,
> Fae
>
> On 28 July 2017 at 13:34, Lucy Crompton-Reid
> <lucy.crompton-r...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
>> Hi Fae, Andy, and all
>>
>> I agree that trying to apply copyright to a 2000 year old item is pretty
>> outrageous, although I'm going to suppose that it stems from ignorance
>> rather than anything else. We have some contacts at the BM although I'm
>> not
>> sure about Tullie House Museum, however I'm happy to contact both
>> institutions, in the first instance, to give them the opportunity to
>> correct
>> this. I'll let you know how I get on.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Lucy
>>
>> On 28 July 2017 at 13:24, Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 28 July 2017 at 13:11, Richard Nevell
>>> <richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
>>> > Attempting to embarrass the British Museum is misguided and certainly
>>> > would
>>> > not build bridges for future collaboration.
>>>
>>> Perhaps, but as Fae indicates, it might also cause some movement.
>>>
>>> What's your - WMUK's, I mean - alternative proposed action?
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