I also thought from our previous discussion that such a relationship will be
better. I have created the following page, please add to it which
papers/stations are already contacted:
http://wikilovesmonuments.co.za/wiki/Media
That way it will be easier for us to keep track of what is going on.
Lourie
>________________________________
> From: Douglas Scott <[email protected]>
>To: Lourie Pieterse <[email protected]>
>Cc: Dumisani Ndubane <[email protected]>; Maarten Deneckere
><[email protected]>; Isla Haddow-Flood <[email protected]>;
>Blessing Chataira <[email protected]>; WikimediaZA
><[email protected]>
>Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 2:46 PM
>Subject: Re: WLM magazine feature and judges
>
>
>Hi Lourie,
>
>
>I am more in favour of an informal relationship as I think it is important
>that we can also work with the other media houses as well. If we could have a
>formal relationship with all of the media houses for this project that would
>be great though.
>
>
>Speaking of which I am in the process of contacting the Cape Argust, Cape
>Times, Mail and Guardian, Art South Africa and a few others now. Having said
>that I think contacting local news papers is a must so it would be great if
>everyone on this list could contact their local newspaper (both in their
>respective city and their neighbourhood, and tell them about this project as
>there is no way that I alone could fine and contact every local newspaper.
>Local radio stations are also an important point of contact and I am talking
>to a person who was very involved in issuing the local radio licences back in
>the day when they still gave them out.
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>
>Douglas.
>
>
>Douglas.
>
>
>On 22 June 2012 13:20, Lourie Pieterse <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Hello everyone
>>
>>
>>See below my discussion with Johann regarding media coverage and potential
>>judges. One of the topics discussed is whether we want a formal agreement
>>with a media house such as Media24. Johann explained the pros and cons of
>>such an agreement below. Please give me your thoughts so that we can decide
>>on how to approach this, as we need to start to think about promoting our
>>project in the media. Thanks!
>>
>>
>>Kind regardsLourie
>>
>>
>>----- Forwarded Message -----
>>>From: Lourie Pieterse <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>To: Johann Van Tonder (Naspers) <[email protected]>
>>>Cc: Dumisani Ndubane <[email protected]>; Maarten Deneckere
>>><[email protected]>; Isla Haddow-Flood <[email protected]>;
>>>Douglas Scott <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:28 PM
>>>Subject: Re: WLM magazine feature and judges
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks for the rapid response. I understood that you are jut planning on
>>>moving to Franschhoek, but either way, I am happy to hear that you are close
>>>to Stellenbosch now.
>>>
>>>
>>>The introduction will be great. I am also happy to hear that there are some
>>>photographers that you have in mind. I now understand the concept behind
>>>media sponsorship much better, and your argument makes sense. I will discuss
>>>it will my fellow WLM organisers and come back to you.
>>>
>>>
>>>Kind regards
>>>Lourie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>> From: Johann Van Tonder (Naspers) <[email protected]>
>>>>To: Lourie Pieterse <[email protected]>
>>>>Cc: Dumisani Ndubane <[email protected]>; Maarten Deneckere
>>>><[email protected]>; Isla Haddow-Flood <[email protected]>;
>>>>Douglas Scott <[email protected]>
>>>>Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 6:34 AM
>>>>Subject: RE: WLM magazine feature and judges
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi Lourie,
>>>>
>>>>The email address still works as I’m still consulting for Naspers. As I
>>>>told you I moved out to Franschhoek so I’m around the corner from you.
>>>>
>>>>Responses inline below.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>johann
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>From:Lourie Pieterse [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>Sent: 21 June 2012 09:53 PM
>>>>To: Johann Van Tonder (Naspers)
>>>>Cc: Dumisani Ndubane; Maarten Deneckere; Isla Haddow-Flood; Douglas Scott
>>>>Subject: WLM magazine feature and judges
>>>>
>>>>Hello Johann
>>>>
>>>>I hope that I am still able to reach you at this email address, as I read
>>>>the other day that you are no longer working for Naspers. I would like to
>>>>come back to you regarding our previous meeting. There are essentially four
>>>>things we need to ask your help with, listed below:
>>>>
>>>>1) We are probably a little late to still get featured in Huisgenoot, You,
>>>>and Drum, but I believe we should still give it a try. One can always be
>>>>lucky! Do you maybe know someone at these magazines whom we can contact
>>>>directly? A nice little introduction would be even better! :) This is one
>>>>of those cases where I don't want to send an email to [email protected]
>>>>and await two months to get referred to the right person. Otherwise, if you
>>>>believe that we have waited too long, we can be better prepared next year.
>>>>
>>>>Go directly to the editor-in-chief, Izelle Venter: [email protected]. I
>>>>can make an introduction over the weekend.
>>>>
>>>>2) You said that you know some professional photographers. Can you please
>>>>put us in contact with them? It would be nice if we could have a
>>>>preliminary list of potential judges and then ask for further nominations.
>>>>That way there is a little less to stress about. We will make a plan later
>>>>on how to only get the best images to the professionals.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, let me think about who would be the best to advise and I’ll let you
>>>>know.
>>>>
>>>>3) I would also like to follow the idea up of asking certain publications,
>>>>such as the daily papers, for specific sponsorships. For example the best
>>>>shipwreck photo sponsored by Die Burger, or something like that. Can you
>>>>also please put us in contact with people at these papers who would be best
>>>>to contact? Are there any specific papers you think we should focus on?
>>>>
>>>>I suspect tiny misunderstanding here. I was talking about media
>>>>sponsorship, which is a different concept. A media house, like Media24,
>>>>then becomes your exclusive media partner and no other media will get the
>>>>story. As I said later in the meeting, I don’t believe this is the best
>>>>route for this project, because you want exactly the opposite - as much
>>>>coverage from as wide a range of publications as possible.
>>>>
>>>>The best way to engage specific publications is to give them interesting
>>>>stories and pictures, relevant to their specific readership segment. They
>>>>use that as a news peg to publicise the event.
>>>>
>>>>4) We talked during the meeting about a media partnership with
>>>>Naspers/Media24. Do you think this idea is still viable, and if so, what
>>>>route should we follow to establish such a partnership? We must still
>>>>discuss between ourselves whether we would like such a partnership, but it
>>>>would be good if we know if advance how probably such as partnership is of
>>>>being established.
>>>>
>>>>See above. I really don’t think it’s wise in this case. Apart from limiting
>>>>your coverage, it’s not very “open” which is what wikipedia is all about...
>>>>
>>>>Thank you so much for your time, it is really appreciated! I don't know
>>>>what we would have done without it.
>>>>
>>>>Kind regards
>>>>Lourie
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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