you have it somewhere on wiki? On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Denise Nicholson < [email protected]> wrote:
> No, unfortunately it hasn't come through. I also included something > about freedom of panarama in my comments. > > Regards > Denise > ________________________________________ > From: Douglas Scott [[email protected]] > Sent: 16 September 2015 04:34 PM > To: Theresa Hume > Cc: wikimediaza; Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Copyright Act of 1978 amendment process: 27 > August deadline > > Hi Denise, I think that might be because of the content filtering function > of this mailing list that could have caused the document, although > attached, not to have been send along with the last email. I will turn it > off for a few seconds and see if it comes through now as an attachment to > this email. > > Cheers, > > Douglas. > > On 16 September 2015 at 16:22, Denise Nicholson < > [email protected] > > wrote: > > > No attachment. Please resend. > > Thanks > > Denise > > ________________________________________ > > From: Douglas Scott [[email protected]] > > Sent: 16 September 2015 03:15 PM > > To: Theresa Hume > > Cc: wikimediaza; Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Copyright Act of 1978 amendment process: 27 > > August deadline > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > Today I have submitted our recommendation to the DTI on behalf of > Wikimedia > > ZA calling for Freedom of Panorama. I have attached a copy of that > > recommendation to this email. It was decided to model our request on the > > one suggested by the Joint Academic Comments on the South African > Copyright > > Amendment Bill with whom we were able to raise and explain our issue with > > Section 15 and its impact on Freedom of Panorama. > > > > Basically we are calling for it to "*be permissible to reproduce, > > distribute and make available to the public works located permanently in > > public roads and ways or public spaces. In the case of buildings, this > > authorisation shall only extend to the façades and interior public spaces > > thereof*." > > > > We have also joined the call for Section 15 to be greatly simplified and > > modernized as well as a broadening of fair use. > > > > I want to especially thank Dr Tobias Schonwetter (Copyright expert at > UCT), > > Pria Chetty (who is also a Wikimedia ZA board member as well as a IT > > Copyright lawyer) and Dimitar Parvanov (who is Advocating for Freedom of > > Panorama in the European Union Parliament). > > > > The actual drafting of the document was done by myself and I take full > > responsibility for any issues or errors in it. > > > > I want to thank you all for your participation in this. It has been > quite > > a ride. I will keep you all posted on any feedback I get from the DTI > > moving forward. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Douglas. > > > > On 21 August 2015 at 13:30, Douglas Scott <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Hello everyone, apologies for the delay on this. About two days ago it > > > was suggested to me that we setup an etherpad to discuss the issue of > > what > > > our suggestion should be to amend the South African Copy Right Act of > > 1978 > > > so as to allow for Freedom of Panorama. I feel that now is a good time > > to > > > set this etherpad up so that anyone who is interested in contributing > to > > > this issue can do so in a collaborative way whilst avoiding spamming > > other > > > people on this list (who might not be interested in this) with our > > chatter. > > > > > > You can find the etherpad at the link here- > > > > > > https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/SA_Copy_Right_Act_amendment_bill_-sec_15_(3) > > > > > > Looking forward to your contributions. Please remember that the > deadline > > > for us to submit a suggestion on how to amend the bill is the 16th > > > September 2015 but I would like to get our submission in on the 15th. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Douglas. > > > > > > On 18 August 2015 at 09:54, [email protected] <[email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> > > > http://medialternatives.com/2015/08/17/draft-copyright-bill-amendment-alarm/ > > >> > > >> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 12:30 AM, Douglas Scott < > > >> [email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > Hello everyone, > > >> > > > >> > As many of you no doubt know the Copy Right Act 1978 section 15 (3) > > >> > < > > >> > > > >> > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama#South_Africa > > >> > > > > >> > has been a bone of some contention for the South Africa Wikipedia > > >> community > > >> > for a long time now as it has effectively meant that we here in > South > > >> > Africa are denied Freedom of Panorama > > >> > <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama>. > > >> > > > >> > Last week I was fortunate enough to have attended an event organised > > by > > >> Dr > > >> > Tobias Schonwetter from UCT (and from Creative Commons South Africa) > > to > > >> > discuss a suggested redrafting of the act. I am happy to say that I > > >> feel I > > >> > was able to make a good case to the relevant authorities from the > > >> > Department of Trade and Industry as well as others present for the > > need > > >> to > > >> > revise the act to allow for Freedom of Panorama. I feel they were > > very > > >> > sympathetic to our concerns about the need and desirability of > Freedom > > >> of > > >> > Panorama in South Africa. > > >> > > > >> > Now comes the hard part. We need to work on a suggested revision of > > >> > Section 15 (3) (or Section 15 generally) to allow for Freedom of > > >> Panorama > > >> > and we need to do it quickly as the deadline for submissions to > change > > >> the > > >> > act is the 27th of August 2015. > > >> > > > >> > My suggestion is to use the Spanish or German Freedom of Panorama > acts > > >> as > > >> > guidelines for us which basically state that people are free to take > > >> > pictures or otherwise reproduce works that are permanently found > > >> outside on > > >> > public ways, streets or places (e.g. squares, plazas) and to > > distribute > > >> and > > >> > publicly communicate such copies. > > >> > > > >> > Or as the Spanish act says: "Works permanently located in parks, > > >> streets, > > >> > squares or other public places may be freely reproduced, distributed > > and > > >> > communicated by means of paintings, drawings, photographs and > > >> audiovisual > > >> > processes." and goes on to state that this "may not be so > interpreted > > >> that > > >> > they could be applied in a manner capable of unreasonably > prejudicing > > >> the > > >> > legitimate interests of the author or adversely affecting the normal > > >> > exploitation of the works to which they refer." > > >> > > > >> > I want to notify the community of this opportunity for us to amended > > the > > >> > act as well as the progress the Chapter (Wikimedia South Africa) has > > >> made > > >> > in possibly getting Freedom of Panorama established in South Africa. > > >> > > > >> > I also wanted to let you know that should you have any comments of > > your > > >> own > > >> > on the amendment of the Copy Right act of 1978 then please have a > look > > >> at > > >> > the link here > > >> > < > > >> > > > >> > > > http://saha.org.za/news/2015/August/call_for_comment_copyright_amendment_bill.htm > > >> > > > > >> > for more information as well as the contact details of the contact > > >> person > > >> > at the DTI. > > >> > > > >> > Thanks and best regards, > > >> > > > >> > Douglas. > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > Douglas Ian Scott > > >> > 司道格 > > >> > Skype: douglas0scott > > >> > South African mobile number: +27 (0)79 515 8727 > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > WikimediaZA mailing list > > >> > [email protected] > > >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> *David Robert Lewis* > > >> *PO BOX 4398* > > >> *Cape Town* > > >> *8000* > > >> *South Africa* > > >> > > >> *Mobile 082 425 1454* > > >> *Home 021 448 0021* > > >> *Fax **0862396815* > > >> *Skype david.robert.lewis* > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> WikimediaZA mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Douglas Ian Scott > > > 司道格 > > > Skype: douglas0scott > > > South African mobile number: +27 (0)79 515 8727 > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Douglas Ian Scott > > 司道格 > > Skype: douglas0scott > > South African mobile number: +27 (0)79 515 8727 > > > > <table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" > > style="width:100%;"> > > <tr> > > <td align="left" style="text-align:justify;"><font > face="arial,sans-serif" > > size="1" color="#999999"><span style="font-size:11px;">This communication > > is intended for the addressee only. 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