Hi Deon

Yes, it is most certainly an indigenous language, since it originated locally. 
Yes, it has family ties with Dutch and English, but also with Khoi, and other 
African languages.

At several occasion, various ministers of education (and other ministers) have 
included Afrikaans as an indigenous language. But of course, it depends on what 
the political motivation is. One can safely assume that this view is not shared 
with everyone ...

Yours,
Gerhard


Vanaf: Deon Steyn
Gestuur: Monday, 11 June 2018 18:20
Aan: [email protected]
Onderwerp: Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Status report: Non-ZA Wikipedian improving the 
ZUWP and XH WP

Guys

One question I have to ask: is Afrikaans an indigenous language?

Regards

Deon

-----Original Message-----
From: WikimediaZA [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Reuben Honigwachs
Sent: 09 June 2018 15:04
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Status report: Non-ZA Wikipedian improving the ZU 
WP and XH WP

I support Deborah's notion of coordinating efforts to strengthen indigenous 
languages. Collaboratively and largely in public. Best also to formulate a 
solid strategy and concrete actions.

We should only specify where exactly and how this discussion is going to take 
place: Meta [1 <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_South_Africa>]
or chapter wiki [2 <http://wikimedia.org.za/wiki/Main_Page>]. BTW, the chapter 
wiki is in the process of being migrated to WMF [3 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195926>] and will support unified login 
(single user login).

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_South_Africa
[2] http://wikimedia.org.za/wiki/Main_Page
[3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195926

Best, Reuben

On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 at 13:59, Douglas Scott <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Deborah, thanks for contacting us.  I will send you a private 
> message cc'ing in some key people so as not to spam people on this mailing 
> list.
>
> Regards,
>
> Douglas.
>
> On 2 June 2018 at 13:26, Deborah S. Jacobs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Dear members of Wikimedia ZA,
> >
> > Living outside South Africa, I was unable to attend either of the 
> > recent Capacity-Building workshops (meet-ups) with Asaf Bartov.  Now 
> > it's June
> and
> > Wikimedia 2018 is fast approaching - so I'm writing to you all via 
> > the mailing list in hopes of forging a bond of inclusion with 
> > Wikimedia ZA,
> at
> > least to apprise you of my activities.
> >
> > For over ten months I've contributed daily to the Zulu Wikipedia, 
> > also
> for
> > the past two months in the Xhosa WP. Neither WP has an 
> > administrator, and their few veteran or new editors are active only 
> > occasionally. My own language resources are sparse and I haven't 
> > succeeded in developing contacts who can evaluate my provisional 
> > translations. (I work prudently with Google Translate and avoid 
> > creating wrongly named pages and
> especially
> > categories.)
> >
> > Nonetheless I've made constant progress based on the Special pages:
> > resolving red links, categorizing, linking with Wikidata, adding bio 
> > data, identifying duplicate pages, clearing inappropriate content, 
> > etc. I do create stub-quality pages, mainly biographical based on 
> > WIkidata and the EN WP.
> >
> > Even if other Wikipedians aren't available for consultation, the 
> > process
> of
> > building these small WPs would benefit from South Africans' input. 
> > I'd
> like
> > to participate in discussions of developing Afrocentric content and 
> > avoiding cultural bias  - e.g., the current eurocentric "Vital articles"
> > and "Vital 100" have already generated dozens of stubs and hundreds 
> > of
> red
> > links, while many valid topics in the subcategories of 
> > :en:Category:South Africa are largely absent.
> >
> > Ideally these discussions will take place within WP on Talk pages, 
> > and
> not
> > in listserved or private emails or on Facebook (useful as those 
> > channels are). And board members: I encourage the Wikimedia ZA page 
> > on meta be
> kept
> > up, particularly as an archive documenting chapter events, and 
> > please
> have
> > someone regularly review activity on the Talk page there. (Two of my
> posts
> > await reply...)
> >
> > I'll send this now, with thanks for your having read thus far  :- ) 
> > I welcome your responses and am looking forward to our future 
> > collaborations and efforts to improve the Wikipedia projects.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Deborah (User:Deborahjay)
> > [email protected]
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>
>
>
> --
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