It certainly is indigenous. Indigenous literally means and always meant " born
in the country in question", not just born anywhere, and that is where
Afrikaans was born. The fact that it is derived from external languages is
irrelevant; and anyway, practically all the other indigenous languages were
derived from further north as well.

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 6:19 PM, Deon Steyn <[email protected]> wrote:

> Guys
>
> One question I have to ask: is Afrikaans an indigenous language?
>
> Regards
>
> Deon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WikimediaZA [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Reuben Honigwachs
> Sent: 09 June 2018 15:04
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Status report: Non-ZA Wikipedian improving the
> ZU WP and XH WP
>
> I support Deborah's notion of coordinating efforts to strengthen
> indigenous languages. Collaboratively and largely in public. Best also to
> formulate a solid strategy and concrete actions.
>
> We should only specify where exactly and how this discussion is going to
> take place: Meta [1 <https://meta.wikimedia.org/
> wiki/Wikimedia_South_Africa>]
> or chapter wiki [2 <http://wikimedia.org.za/wiki/Main_Page>]. BTW, the
> chapter wiki is in the process of being migrated to WMF [3 <
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195926>] and will support unified
> login (single user login).
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_South_Africa
> [2] http://wikimedia.org.za/wiki/Main_Page
> [3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195926
>
> Best, Reuben
>
> On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 at 13:59, Douglas Scott <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Deborah, thanks for contacting us.  I will send you a private
> > message cc'ing in some key people so as not to spam people on this
> mailing list.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Douglas.
> >
> > On 2 June 2018 at 13:26, Deborah S. Jacobs <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear members of Wikimedia ZA,
> > >
> > > Living outside South Africa, I was unable to attend either of the
> > > recent Capacity-Building workshops (meet-ups) with Asaf Bartov.  Now
> > > it's June
> > and
> > > Wikimedia 2018 is fast approaching - so I'm writing to you all via
> > > the mailing list in hopes of forging a bond of inclusion with
> > > Wikimedia ZA,
> > at
> > > least to apprise you of my activities.
> > >
> > > For over ten months I've contributed daily to the Zulu Wikipedia,
> > > also
> > for
> > > the past two months in the Xhosa WP. Neither WP has an
> > > administrator, and their few veteran or new editors are active only
> > > occasionally. My own language resources are sparse and I haven't
> > > succeeded in developing contacts who can evaluate my provisional
> > > translations. (I work prudently with Google Translate and avoid
> > > creating wrongly named pages and
> > especially
> > > categories.)
> > >
> > > Nonetheless I've made constant progress based on the Special pages:
> > > resolving red links, categorizing, linking with Wikidata, adding bio
> > > data, identifying duplicate pages, clearing inappropriate content,
> > > etc. I do create stub-quality pages, mainly biographical based on
> > > WIkidata and the EN WP.
> > >
> > > Even if other Wikipedians aren't available for consultation, the
> > > process
> > of
> > > building these small WPs would benefit from South Africans' input.
> > > I'd
> > like
> > > to participate in discussions of developing Afrocentric content and
> > > avoiding cultural bias  - e.g., the current eurocentric "Vital
> articles"
> > > and "Vital 100" have already generated dozens of stubs and hundreds
> > > of
> > red
> > > links, while many valid topics in the subcategories of
> > > :en:Category:South Africa are largely absent.
> > >
> > > Ideally these discussions will take place within WP on Talk pages,
> > > and
> > not
> > > in listserved or private emails or on Facebook (useful as those
> > > channels are). And board members: I encourage the Wikimedia ZA page
> > > on meta be
> > kept
> > > up, particularly as an archive documenting chapter events, and
> > > please
> > have
> > > someone regularly review activity on the Talk page there. (Two of my
> > posts
> > > await reply...)
> > >
> > > I'll send this now, with thanks for your having read thus far  :- )
> > > I welcome your responses and am looking forward to our future
> > > collaborations and efforts to improve the Wikipedia projects.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Deborah (User:Deborahjay)
> > > [email protected]
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Douglas Ian Scott
> > 司道格
> > Skype:  douglas0scott
> > South African mobile number: +27 (0)79 515 8727
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