Like Peter I've also been following this for some time now. And I remember that in one of their presentations they said the rebranding idea was sparked by an email from one of the community members, I asked who sent that email and what was the initial community response, so I can understand the history behind but I didn't get a satisfactory answer from WMF.
Anyway I'm one of those who's in the middle here, so I concur with Ian's comment of discussing this in-depth on Tuesday. Best, Bobby Shabangu On Sun, Jun 21, 2020, 23:47 Ian Gilfillan <[email protected]> wrote: > Personally I am also against this "rebranding". > > Our next board meeting is scheduled for Tuesday I believe and we can > discuss it further then. If there is enough support from members, we can > certainly take a position. If anyone else believes Wikimedia South > Africa should, or shouldn't, take a stand on this issue (either in > support of one of the options, or in opposition to them all), please let > us know as soon as possible. > > On 2020/06/21 22:58, David Richfield wrote: > > I agree 100% with what Peter has said and I've given my feedback in > > the questionnaire. > > > > I would be very much in support of Wikimedia ZA taking a position > > opposing the use of Wikipedia to brand the whole movement and the > > organisations. > > > > Cheers > > > > David > > > > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 at 17:16, Douglas Scott <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Currently Wikimedia ZA does not have a position on this but it is > certainly > >> something we can start a process to have an opinion on. Judging from the > >> Chapters chairpersons mailing list there are a lot of chapters that > share > >> Peter's concerns. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Douglas. > >> > >> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 13:25, Peter Southwood < > [email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I have been following this from the start. This "rebranding" has been > met > >>> with considerable resistance from Wikipedias and other projects, but > they > >>> persist in pretending the resistance does not exist. The idea is poor. > WMF > >>> and their paid spin-doctors appear to be hell bent on pushing this bad > idea > >>> through regardless of opposition or logic. Wikipedia is an > encyclopaedia, > >>> not a movement. The movement is not Wikipedia, it is an attempt to use > the > >>> Wikipedia name for the ends of the putative movement, and looks a lot > like > >>> a takeover attempt. There are several other projects like Wikidata, > >>> Wikivoyage, Wikisource etc which will be even more overshadowed by the > >>> proposed renaming/rebranding. The only ones likely to profit ( and I > use > >>> the word in its most literal meaning), is WMF, who may find the annual > >>> fundraising even easier to exceed targets. Personally I consider the > >>> proposal and the way it has been pushed against the resistance and > >>> objections of the people who actually create and curate the content to > be > >>> ethically questionable, though in US company law, probably totally > legal. > >>> This has already been divisive and will only get more so. > >>> Cheers, > >>> Peter > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: WikimediaZA [mailto:[email protected]] On > >>> Behalf Of Adri Baard > >>> Sent: 17 June 2020 11:47 > >>> To: wikimediaza > >>> Subject: [Wikimedia ZA] Feedback needed: Wikimedia Branding Project > >>> > >>> Good morning everyone > >>> > >>> As you may or may not know, Wikimedia is busy with a project to > potentially > >>> rebrand. > >>> We now have the opportunity to give feedback on the project as it > stands > >>> right now. > >>> > >>> However, in order to streamline the process, I've been asked to > complete > >>> the feedback on behalf of the ZA Chapter. > >>> > >>> So.. please see the latest presentation > >>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3zlBGHHHiY> and accompanying > slidedeck. > >>> < > >>> > https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1iLC7VYew1anjoIfV025hCVJFWmC0VdbJ3QiwbmZDaOM/edit#slide=id.g8891f61d3a_0_0 > >>> If > >>> you're familiar with the previous phases of the project feel free to > skip > >>> to the middle of the video. > >>> If you need more information, the background on the project is here > >>> < > >>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movement_brand_project > >>> . > >>> > >>> I have two weeks from today to complete the survey, and will > appreciate any > >>> feedback by next Wednesday. > >>> > >>> Kind regards > >>> > >>> Adri Baard > >>> Boardmember > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> > >>> > > -- > Ian Gilfillan > www.wikimedia.org.za > Facebook: www.facebook.com/WikimediaZA/ > Twitter: https://twitter.com/Wikimedia_ZA > Zulip: https://wikimediaza.zulipchat.com > > > _______________________________________________ > WikimediaZA mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza > To unsubscribe, send an email to > [email protected] _______________________________________________ WikimediaZA mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza To unsubscribe, send an email to [email protected]
