Not that I am under any illusion that my opinion matters, but I strongly recommend everyone to have absolutely nothing to do with this leech-organisation.
*Rossouw van RooyenFarm ManagerWildheim <https://www.wildheim.net/>Cell: 081 874 1191Tel: 063 280 650* On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 10:21, Michael Graaf <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > > what I was saying was that instead of seeing this as an issue of Afrikaans > being discriminated against, it should be seen as careless > communication/ignorance on the part of Moleskine. We would all gladly > support them if they announced that their mission was to boost marginalised > languages (those with small wikis/few contributors). However,they expressed > it by saying they want to support indigenous languages, with an assumption > that these two categories overlap. > > However Afrikaans is an exception, since it isn't marginalised. They failed > to take that fact into consideration, and hence they raised false > expectations. Then, adding insult to injury, they tried to explain by > saying Afrikaans is not indigenous, rather than that it's not marginalised. > So we need to advise them to be more careful. > > On a personal note, let me remind board members that we have previously > discussed the issue of "Afrikaaps" being the marginalised side of > Afrikaans. After I shared a radio interview with you, I was mandated to > contact the panelists, which I did, but without them taking up the offer of > a workshop. More recently UWC has published the first dictionary of > Afrikaaps, so perhaps someone there might be interested in dialogue. > > Regards, > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:15 AM Bobby Shabangu <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Dear Shupai, > > > > Kindly remind me what resolution did we take on the issue Deon is > raising. > > I remember him raising that he applied for the Wikimedian in Residence > > position and he made a follow up why he was not selected as a candidate > but > > instead he was informed they don't recognize Afrikaans, @Deon correct me > if > > I'm wrong here! > > > > I think I said I was going to write a letter to chastise them for such > > kind of harsh response since Rossouw an Afrikaans speaker played a > pivotal > > role in this project. And I remember Michael speaking but my internet > went > > down I don't remember how we finally said we were gonna move forward with > > this issue? Kindly remind me so that I respond immediately. > > > > Best, > > Bobby Shabangu > > > > On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 08:00, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Hi guys > >> > >> The very same people that does not recognise Afrikaans as an indigenous > >> language... > >> > >> Deon > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Bobby Shabangu <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Woensdag 22 September 2021 02:25 > >> To: Tochi Precious <[email protected]>; WikimediaZA List > >> <[email protected]>; Shupai Mchuchu < > >> [email protected]>; > >> Ngonidzashe Chipunza <[email protected]> > >> Subject: [Wikimedia ZA] Re: Kind request for support for AfroCuration > >> South > >> Africa event > >> > >> Dear Tochi, > >> > >> Thanks for reaching out, we already know about this project from a > >> presentation made by Papa some couple of months back. Shupai our > >> administrator will let you know there are more volunteers from the > Chapter > >> and community who would like to take part here. > >> > >> @Shupai Mchuchu <[email protected]> kindly note these dates and > >> send > >> me a reminder 2 days before it takes place. Also kindly send this to our > >> community and board to find out if there aren't any volunteers who would > >> want to take part and volunteer with their time in this project. I'll > >> certainly be there. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Bobby Shabangu > >> > >> On Tue, 21 Sept 2021 at 16:59, Tochi Precious <[email protected] > > > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Hello Bobby, my name is [[User: Tochiprecious]]. I'm one of the > >> > founding members of @wikimediaigbo and also a Wikipedian in Residence > >> > at Moleskine Foundation working on the WikiAfrica Education project. > >> > > >> > I pioneered the last AfroCuration on 4th and 5th September in > >> > Mozambique where I worked with the WMF Language Team to get the > >> > Makhuwa language Wikipedia into the incubator. We had over 70 > >> > participants and have created over 120 articles since then. > >> > > >> > My next program is in S.A, with Constitution Hill and Harambee on 26th > >> > and 27th of October and I would like to ask for your assistance as a > >> > User Group to help train new editors to edit your language Wikipedia, > >> > and also mentor them to become part of your user group and also > >> > knowledge contributors in your language on Wiki. > >> > > >> > Also, I would like to find out the languages that the S.A User Group > >> > edits Wiki in. > >> > > >> > I'll be looking forward to hearing from you soon. > >> > > >> > Thanks a lot > >> > Tochi > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> WikimediaZA mailing list -- [email protected] To > >> unsubscribe > >> send an email to [email protected] > >> To unsubscribe, send an email to %(real_name)s-unsubscribe@ > %(host_name)s > >> _______________________________________________ > >> WikimediaZA mailing list -- [email protected] > >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > >> To unsubscribe, send an email to %(real_name)s-unsubscribe@ > %(host_name)s > >> > > > > -- > Michael Graaf, M.Phil (UCT) > > Researcher, Editor & > Community Informatics Practitioner > > Mob +27795487242 > WhatsApp/ Signal/ Telegram +27647754342 > ORCID 0000-0002-1951-5739 > _______________________________________________ > WikimediaZA mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe, send an email to %(real_name)s-unsubscribe@%(host_name)s > _______________________________________________ WikimediaZA mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send an email to %(real_name)s-unsubscribe@%(host_name)s
