I am mostly talking about a f2f<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friend-to-friend> network. Users can be discarded locally, ie again no need for consesus. I hope this is my self-contradiction. The only close thing that exists right now that is used for things other than file sharing is ripple<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripple_monetary_system> .
2012/10/28 Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis <[email protected]> > Please, enlighten me. > > > 2012/10/28 Stirling Newberry <[email protected]> > >> Your post is self-contradictory. >> >> On Oct 27, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis wrote: >> >> > 1)I don't think that google results have any credibility at all. >> > 2)The basis of a wiki is the open source license of its contents. That >> is >> > why it is a collaboration. >> > >> >> Consensus is core to what credibility wikipedia has, because it is much >> > harder to get a bot net to generate it than to generate links. It means >> > that anyone who writes has at least consented to have others check their >> > work. >> > >> > That is incorrect. It is much more difficult because each page is >> checked >> > by users. In the same way, rating an article will be done by users and >> the >> > network of trust will be dynamic. If a user is providing bad >> information, >> > he will be discarded manually from users. >> > >> >> That's categorically incorrect. Consensus is a rational preference, you >> > would ban it, there for violating admissibility. It will also run into >> > transitivity issues quickly, as people will set up link farms to point >> to >> > their version. >> > >> > Care to explain that? >> > >> > Whose preference is rational? rational preference >> > < >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preference_(economics)#Applications_to_theories_of_utility >> > >> > Admissibity of what? >> > Admissible_rule<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admissible_rule> >> > >> > Again transitivity of whose preferences? >> > >> > I guess that you are trying to say that through consensus , we end up in >> > some sort of parreto efficient state, ie that the consensus "game" >> forces >> > articles to be good enough. >> > >> > I dont propose to ban consensus, only to allow users to have many >> > consensus. I think that people will continue to strive for acceptance >> and >> > consensus, especially since each user will have some sort of ranking. >> > I admit that I havent really thought of this from a game theoretic >> point of >> > view. >> > Stackoverflow, mathoverflow 's ranking system seems to have given a good >> > incentice to authors, though. >> > It all depends on the trust metric. >> > >> > It is though universally understood that this consensus "game" doesnt >> > provide good enough results for academic research. >> > >> > >> > >> > 2012/10/28 David Gerard <[email protected]> >> > >> >> On 28 October 2012 00:12, Stirling Newberry >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Oct 27, 2012, at 6:33 PM, Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis wrote: >> >> >> >>>> I know that this is very different from what wikipedia has been known >> >> to be >> >>>> and it is understandable that this huge change can only happen from >> >> outside >> >>>> of wikipedia. >> >> >> >>> This project has been started, it is called "the world wide web." >> >> >> >> >> >> Indeed. If Wikipedia were not an improvement over the first ten Google >> >> hits, it wouldn't exist. >> >> >> >> >> >> - d. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wikipedia-l mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > Sincerely yours, >> > >> > Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikipedia-l mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikipedia-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l >> > > > > -- > > > Sincerely yours, > > Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis > > > -- Sincerely yours, Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l
