Thanks for removing me from the list.


On 20/02/2014, at 15:18, Andrea Zanni <[email protected]> wrote:

> "-___-
> 
> I hate syntax errors.
> 
> thanks
> 
> Aubrey
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Thomas Tanon <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> It's just because there was a syntax error in the configuration page. I've 
> just fixed it [1] and I think it works fine now. The best way to check if the 
> configuration is valid is to try to edit an Index: page.
> 
> Thomas
> 
> PS: there is no "subtitle" in the ProofreadPage metadata system yet
> 
> [1] 
> https://it.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3AProofreadpage_index_data_config&diff=1381666&oldid=1381665
> 
> Le 20 févr. 2014 à 14:46, Andrea Zanni <[email protected]> a écrit :
> 
> > Hi Tpt, just a little question.
> > I just got a feedback from one of the digital lending company i was talking 
> > about, and they tell me that there is no
> > "dc:title" in the OAI data.
> >
> > (example below)
> >
> > <record>
> > <header>
> > <identifier>
> > oai:it.wikisource.org:prpIndex/De%27_matematici_italiani_anteriori_all%27invenzione_della_stampa.djvu
> > </identifier>
> > <datestamp>2012-08-27T19:51:56Z</datestamp>
> > <setSpec>edizioni_wikisource</setSpec>
> > </header>
> > <metadata>
> > <prp_qdc:qdc xmlns:prp_qdc="http://mediawiki.org/xml/proofreadpage/qdc/"; 
> > xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"; 
> > xmlns:dcterms="http://purl.org/dc/terms/"; 
> > xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"; 
> > xsi:schemaLocation="http://mediawiki.org/xml/proofreadpage/qdc/ 
> > //it.wikisource.org/wiki/Speciale:ProofreadIndexOaiSchema/qdc">
> > <dc:type xsi:type="dcterms:DCMIType">Text</dc:type>
> > <dc:format xsi:type="dcterms:IMT">text/html</dc:format>
> > <dc:format xsi:type="dcterms:IMT">image/vnd.djvu</dc:format>
> > <dc:creator>Bartolomeo Veratti</dc:creator>
> > <dc:publisher xml:lang="it">Tipografia degli Eredi Soliani</dc:publisher>
> > <dcterms:spatial xml:lang="it">Modena</dcterms:spatial>
> > <dcterms:issued xsi:type="xsi:decimal">1860</dcterms:issued>
> > <dc:language xsi:type="dcterms:RFC5646">it</dc:language>
> > </prp_qdc:qdc>
> > </metadata>
> > </record>
> >
> > I looked into it and the problem is  probably that the dc:title is 
> > attributed to the
> >
> > I thus modified the config 
> > (https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_data_config) 
> > like this:
> > https://it.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3AProofreadpage_index_data_config&diff=1381663&oldid=1364882
> >
> > But now it seems it lost even more data!
> > https://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Special:ProofreadIndexOai?verb=ListRecords&metadataPrefix=prp_qdc
> >
> > Aubrey
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Thomas Tanon <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > This page isn’t list in Special:SpecialPages because it’s an API endpoint 
> > and not something done for « normal" wiki users use.
> >
> > http://mediawiki.org/xml/proofreadpage/qdc/ is only used as a vocabulary 
> > URI. As allowed by the OAI-PMH spec the vocabulary schema is available in 
> > an other place specified by xsi:schemaLocation: 
> > https://wikisource.org/wiki/Special:ProofreadIndexOaiSchema/qdc
> > (it’s only a wrapper for qualified Dublin Core).
> >
> > Mediawiki:Proofreadpage_index_oai_sets is only done to configure OAI-PMH 
> > "sets" (sort of categories). the OAI endpoint is usable even without sets 
> > created.
> > The records content are configured by 
> > MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_data_config using the "data" property that 
> > maps Index: pages entries to entries as understood by ProofreadPage. The 
> > "type" property is also used. en, fr old and it Wikisources use this new 
> > configuration system already. I’ve just improved a little bit the 
> > MediaWiki.org page about it.
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> > PS: You have right, the documentation is a real problem. I’m going to send 
> > an email to the mailing list about it.
> >
> > > You should ask Tpt,
> > > he's the one working with OAI-PMH.
> > >
> > > Very happy Luiz that you want to mess with that page,
> > > as we probably need some tests to make it up and running for different 
> > > scenarios,
> > > as far as I know few Wikisources actually use it.
> > >
> > > I'm currently speaking with 2 companies which do "digital lending", 
> > > meaning,
> > > lending ebooks. I told them about that page and related.
> > > I still have no feedback about though.
> > >
> > > Aubrey
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 7:19 AM, Luiz Augusto <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Hi, Billinghurst,
> > >
> > > I think that you have misunderstood the mentioned special page.
> > >
> > > The Oai portion on [[Special:ProofreadIndexOai]] reffers to OAI-PMH (Open 
> > > Archives Initiative Protocol for Metadata Harvesting), not OAuth =)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:26 AM, billinghurst <[email protected]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > Luiz,
> > >
> > > I don't see it listed at
> > >   https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:OAuthListConsumers
> > > which is where all approved clients are listed at this time (though the
> > > plan is to move the process to meta at some point).
> > >
> > > Regards, Billinghurst
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 18:54:18 -0300, Luiz Augusto <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I've just found [[Special:ProofreadIndexOai]] and loved it!
> > > >
> > > > Firstly, why this special page isn't listed at [[Special:SpecialPages]]?
> > > >
> > > > Second, [1] points to [2], that returns a 404 error.
> > > >
> > > > Oka, now I'll ask the most important thing: how to implement it!? =)
> > > >
> > > > The doc page [3] mentions a page stored in the MediaWiki namespace, but
> > > > that page is almost empty on it.wikisource and don't ever was created on
> > > > en.wikisource. Those domains contains DC fields such as title, creator,
> > > > issued.
> > > >
> > > > The MediaWiki page was also ever created on pt.wikisource, but all
> > > metadata
> > > > that it returns to me is type and format.
> > > >
> > > > ----
> > > > As a side note, I really love all efforts done in ProofreadPage
> > > extension.
> > > > It's amazing that a plugin developed entirely in a volunteer basis, with
> > > > little or none input from the main product (MediaWiki) developer team,
> > > has
> > > > achieved such level of quality and complexity.
> > > >
> > > > But, please, give some love and attention to maintain it's
> > > documentation.
> > > > Do it remembering that it will be crucial for small Wikisources, since
> > > most
> > > > of the time only one or two users retains all the very specific
> > > knowledge
> > > > necessary to try to develop and atract new users for that subdomain.
> > > >
> > > > Reverse engineering to discover how something works is a time consuming
> > > > task, like all the remaining core tasks. At the end, those local experts
> > > > users ends in getting no fun contributing to Wikisource because firstly
> > > > needs to do lots of additional and sometimes bureaucratic work if really
> > > > wants to not being the only user in such wiki.
> > > >
> > > > We all are in the same boat, trying to colect works in copyleft or
> > > public
> > > > domain in a project that the main organization behind we (Wikimedia
> > > > Foundation) neither try to help us or know how to help us (in fact,
> > > mostly
> > > > of us, myself included, don't know also on what can be helped), please
> > > help
> > > > each other on what is possible.
> > > >
> > > > [what a melodramatic message I just wrote LOL]
> > > >
> > > > ----
> > > >
> > > > [1] -
> > > >
> > > https://wikisource.org/wiki/Special:ProofreadIndexOai?verb=ListRecords&metadataPrefix=prp_qdc
> > > >
> > > > [2] - http://mediawiki.org/xml/proofreadpage/qdc/
> > > >
> > > > [3] - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Proofread_Page#OAI-PMH
> > >
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