There's an underlying many-to-many relationship between works and edition,
data structure IMHO should be built accordingly with the worst case: an
edition that collects many different works, any of them being published in
many different editions.

At it.wikisource we are going to simplify a little bit things using a
convention based of the fact that "book" is a physical entity;
1. one djvu file for one book;
2. one Index page for one djvu file (this is simple :-) )
3. at least one ns0 page exactly matching one index page.

So, given a simple one-to-one relationship between these entities, a unique
wikidata edition item is sufficient for all from them.

This simple approach solves the "edition" side of the issue; the "work"
side, IMHO, can only be solved with a different "work" abstract item, as we
are doing into the new Work namespace.

Alex



2015-06-29 12:40 GMT+02:00 David Cuenca Tudela <[email protected]>:

> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Andrea Zanni <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> It is solvable, but it is complex.
>>
>> 3. Qx and/or Qy have an associated (English) Wikipedia page
>>
>> I think that one of the issues here is the simple fact that the matter is
>> complex, and even if you find a solution to the "theory", it's not easy to
>> comply. Right now in Wikidata there is confusion, around books, and you
>> don't really know what to do with them.
>>
>> Moreover, it is not easy at all to create a new book, make the right
>> relationships with the author and other work/edition of the same book. For
>> example, as far as I know, you can't copy an item, and this alone is a
>> burden to the user who has to start everytime from scratch a new item.
>> I myself give it up most times than not....
>>
>
> TBH, I would only focus on the 90% of the cases and leave the other cases
> to be handled manually.
>
> An example of how the structure is:
> Random Work
> |- edition 1 in English
> |- edition 2 in English
> |- edition 1 in Italian
> |- edition 1 in French
>
> The page in edition 1 is linked to the item in Wikidata, but the interwiki
> links do not show up for the other editions, so it is a matter of finding
> out what are the other edition interwiki links and displaying them in the
> Wikisource page.
>
> This has two components, the data input and the visualization component.
> For the data input there is the new Book Manager v2 which is the metadata
> frontend
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BookManagerv2
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T17071
>
> It is a matter of enabling a field more to link with the work item, and
> through it, get the interwiki links of all editions connected to that item
> representing the work.
>
> I don't know if it is the proper way to do it, but I would appreciate some
> feedback.
>
> For linking with the Index page there is a new Wikidata property as Magnus
> pointed.
>
> Cheers,
> Micru
>
>
>
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