Hi ,

Thank you Gopala for responding and opening up options for community
members to join Bangalore meeting, although may be due to this very short
notice, that would be very unlikely for many of us to participate
physically.

Unfortuantely your reply did not answer most of my questions. As you have
said to directly contact Samir for Patiala and Delhi event, my questions
are now directed to him.

Samir, I am still confused about how you planned for Patiala and Delhi
which is just few hundred kilometers away, completely ignoring other parts
of the country with strong communities and without letting anyone know
about the event in either mailing list or village pumps. Is it WMF decision
to meet only these communities or is it someone from these two communities
who recommended to you, falsely portraiying that these are the only active
communities in India and others are not? I am also confused after receiving
Suyash and Manavpreet's message where they said they had no or little clue
about these events happening in their communities!! Even the active
community members weren't communicated!!!

So, I am not hopeful that any meaningful conversation will happen in the
events, but may be that was the plan, who knows. I am more and more
believing on this theory floating around, that rebranding is already a made
decision by some people in WMF and whatever happening in the name of
community conversation is just a protocol which doesn't matter to anyone.

Anyway, as most of the communities will not participate in the
conversation, I expect that there will be proper documentation from now on
about what's going on in these 3 events and I would also be very interested
to see what Samir will report back to WMF about the conversations.

I am not sure if Samir is in this mailing list, because he is not
responding at all, so I am cc-ing him.

Regards,
Manoj Kulkarni

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 4:52 PM Gopala Krishna A <bhat.gka...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello,
> Thanks for your emails and comments.
> Some notes:
> Samir contacted CIS-A2K and CIS-A2K is directly co-ordinating the
> Bangalore meet that is to be taken place on 21 April 2019. Samir also asked
> other Wikimedians for suggestions.
> For Delhi and Patiala event please contact Samir (
> selsharb...@wikimedia.org).
> Event page link:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Brand_Project_-_Community_review_in_India
> CIS is also providing support for a venue in Delhi, and I am will help in
> the venue in Delhi.
> For Bangalore meet support contact me. (gop...@cis-india.org)
>
> Following the interesting discussion in the mailing list, we would like to
> invite interested Wikimedians in India to attend the Bangalore event,
> organised by CIS, on 21 April 2019. If you are an active Wikimedian from
> India, and want to join the survey, please email to gop...@cis-india.org
>  and t...@cis-india.org (please send to both) and write in brief the
> topics/a few questions related to rebranding and strategy you want to
> discuss in the meet.
>
> We are also in the process of arranging hangout calls for more community
> input. We will give updates about the online call.
>
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 12:52 AM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga <
> kcvel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In line with Bodhi's comments,
>>
>> I feel that there are several other communities which have been left out
>> in this consultation process. I completely understand that CIS-A2K is
>> trying to accommodate their best to represent all the voices, but it would
>> be even better to include the "major" communities and movement affiliates.
>> I know it is too late to change Samir's plan, but it would be great if
>> CIS-A2K can support representatives from certain communities to participate
>> in-person and voice their opinion about the branding strategy. Physically
>> participating can have much more impact than a remote call.
>>
>> All Wikimedians from Northern Indian can easily come to Delhi, and South
>> ones Bengaluru. At least, if you think 18th is too close, 21st in Bengaluru
>> can be a good option to invite some experienced Wikimedians (say five
>> people from communities those which haven't been consulted).
>>
>> I think it is a fair decision to make.
>>
>> Best,
>> Krishna
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 10:07 AM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gopala,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the quick response. It would be great if it is possible for
>>> you to create a Doodle poll or similar for the online meeting.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Bodhisattwa
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, 09:57 Gopala Krishna A, <bhat.gka...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Bodhi,
>>>> Thank you for the feedback. I would like to give a small update. We
>>>> will arrange for an online session along with offline meet-up in Bengaluru.
>>>> Date and Time - 21 April 2019, 11:00AM to 2:00 PM.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, 08:41 Bodhisattwa Mandal, <
>>>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Gopal,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the information.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible for other user groups and communities to provide him
>>>>> feedback somehow? If it is not possible to change the schedule in the last
>>>>> moment and bring him to some other places like Kolkata, is it possible to
>>>>> have an online session with user group and community representatives?
>>>>>
>>>>> If it is somehow possible, then please make it happen as West Bengal
>>>>> Wikimedians have definitely some concern on the branding proposal which
>>>>> needs to be addressed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Bodhisattwa
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, 08:29 Gopala Krishna A, <bhat.gka...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Wikimedians,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings from A2K. In upcoming week, Wikimedia Foundation Community
>>>>>> brand and marketing coordinator Samir Elsharbaty
>>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Selsharbaty_(WMF)> is visiting
>>>>>> India to collect feedback from affiliates and communities in India.
>>>>>> Schedule will be as follows:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. 16 April 2019 - Session with Hindi Wikimedians User group
>>>>>>    members and other Wikimedians in New Delhi. This is going to takes 
>>>>>> place at
>>>>>>    CIS office, First floor, B 1/8, Hauz Khaas, near G Block market, New 
>>>>>> Delhi
>>>>>>    between 11 AM and 2 PM.
>>>>>>    2. 18 April 2019: Session with Punjabi Wikimedians User group in
>>>>>>    Patiala between 11 AM and 2 PM.
>>>>>>    3. 21 April 2019: Session with CIS-A2K and Wikimedians in
>>>>>>    Bangaluru. Event is going to take place at CIS office, No. 194, 2nd 
>>>>>> 'C'
>>>>>>    cross, Domlur, 2nd Stage, Bengaluru between 11 AM to 2PM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Main agenda will be:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - Wikimedia brand project presentation for the 2030 strategic
>>>>>>    direction.
>>>>>>    - Discussion and open Q&A.
>>>>>>    - Introduction about the Wikimedia Foundation's communication's
>>>>>>    team and their work.
>>>>>>    - Open discussion on communications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please read more about these sessions here and register your name for
>>>>>> participation:
>>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Brand_Project_-_Community_review_in_India
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please feel free to contact us if you have any questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Gopala Krishna A
>>>>>> Community Advocate, CIS-A2K
>>>>>> Contact : +918884244408
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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> Contact : +918884244408
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