Hi!

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Brion Vibber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Eugene Zelenko wrote:
>> How about demanding from foundation to allocate some part of latest
>> usability improvement grant/resources
>> (http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Wikipedia_to_become_more_user-friendly_for_new_volunteer_writers)
>> to solve at some of Commons problems?
>
> We probably won't get to much Commons-specific stuff in there, but we'll
> see what sub-projects come up.

Will be good idea to find old e-mail to wikitech-l from Brianna
Laugher with Commons requirements since most of the requests still not
implemented :-(

For example, unsupported categories translation already used for
Commons bad publicity on Russian Wikipedia.

>> As for user language: see comments in similar request about user's
>> gender (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13040), which
>> also affect quality of MediaWiki localizations.
>
> Will social gender (often, but not always aligned with biological sex)
> always track with grammatical gender?

I hope so :-)

> What are the cascading implications of user gender on localization
> (adjective agreement in Romance languages, verb agreement in Semitic
> languages) and what technical requirements would be imposed?

Messages should be similar to GRAMMAR (for example GENDER). So
sentences such as "User uploaded" could be more correctly translated
as "Участник загрузил/Участница загрузила" on Russian or "Удзельнік
загрузіў/Удзельніца загрузіла" on Belarusian. Same thing for
Polish/Ukrainian and most likely for other Slavic languages.

Gender settings could be also used in Babel extension and user boxes
(currently uses parameters for this purpose).

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Eugene.
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