Hoi,
Have a look at this: http://www.omegawiki.org/Expression:Nederland This is
structured data It can be shown in multiple languages. It does allow for
interwiki links... It already works with MediaWiki ...
So the question is, why re-invent the wheel ?
Thanks,
GerardM
2009/2/3 Michael Dale <[email protected]>
> We really need a wikidata type site. We ran into similar issues with
> structured data between government data wikis. Yaron hacked up a
> (relatively simple) extension called External Data for pulling external
> data into a given page.
>
> This ends up working very well, allowing us to effortlessly transclude
> shared datasets into templates of multiple wikis. This is fundamentally
> good as it moves queriable maintained structured data away from multiple
> instances of user maintained semi-structured data.
>
> For the wikimedia context I think something like wikidata.wikimedia.org
> needs to be created. It could be a semanticMediaWiki wiki installation
> extended with localized page aliases. A single page-id or "concept"
> would have many title columns for each language. (The localized title
> columns can be propagated by the existing database of inter-wiki
> language links). Furthermore since "properties/relations" have
> titles/"page-ids"; they could also be localized. Allowing you to query
> the shared structured dataset in your local language.
>
> Then something like external data extension will tie wikidata to all the
> current language wikis. This can be thought of as commons but for data.
> (likewise external to wikimedia wikis could use this structured data).
> This lets template authors concentrate on localized representation of
> the data (calling the native language properties) , articles authors can
> focus on the article (instead of huge seed of hard to maintain template
> data), and structured data folks can focus on importing data into the
> central shared repository.
>
>
> --michael
>
> Marcus Buck wrote:
> > Lars Aronsson hett schreven:
> >
> >> What is the best way to organize infobox templates for geographic
> >> places, the one used on the French, the Polish, or the Turkish
> >> Wikipedia? What are the most important features in use on other
> >> languages of Wikipedia, that my language is still missing?
> >>
> >> Are these questions of a kind that you sometimes ask yourself?
> >> If so, where do you go to find the answers? Are we all just
> >> copying ideas from the English Wikipedia? Or inventing our own
> >> wheels? Has anybody collected stories of how one project learned
> >> something useful from another one?
> >>
> > As you are speaking of infoboxes and crosswiki, I want to chip in
> > another thought: why do we actually place infobox templates on every
> > single wiki? In 2007 I created some semiautomatic bot articles about
> > municipalities on my home wiki. In 2008 they had elections and elected
> > new mayors. So my articles mentioning the mayors were outdated. The
> > articles in the main language of that country were updated relatively
> > quickly, Mine are not yet. I plan to do, but who does that for all
> > articles in all language editions?
> >
> > An example: Bavaria held communal elections in March 2008. Enough time
> > to update infoboxes. The municipality Adelzhausen got Lorenz Braun as
> > new mayor, replacing Thomas Goldstein. I checked all interwikis of the
> > German article. Two had it right. Both were created after the elections.
> > Four don't mention the mayor at all, and six still mentioned the old
> > mayor. No wiki had bothered to update the information.
> >
> > It would be much easier, if we had a central repository for the data. We
> > would place infoboxes in the central wiki. Each wiki then could fetch
> > the data from the central wiki just as images are fetched from Commons
> > and render the data into a localised infobox. That would be much more
> > accurate than maintaining redundant info on potentially hundreds of
> wikis.
> >
> > Marcus Buck
> >
> > PS: And that would be interesting in regard to "botopedias" too. Volapük
> > Wikipedia was massively critized for creating masses of bot content.
> > With a central wiki for data creating articles for example for all the
> > ~37,000 municipalities of France would essentially be reduced to
> > creating a template that renders the central content into an article.
> > Little Wikipedias could greatly benefit, if they just had to create some
> > templates to make available info on hundreds of thousands of topics to
> > the speakers of their language. It would be very basic, infobox-like
> > information, but it would be information.
> >
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