On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:13 AM, William Allen
Simpson<[email protected]> wrote:
> However, (assuming you are a developer) that makes 2 developers indicating
> this is not a priority.  Please remove the link to the secure server on the
> login page, so that common editors are not confused by it, thinking that
> this is a supported service....

Steve Bennett is not a developer (as far as I can tell).  And while I
am a developer, I'm not a sysadmin and have nothing to do with
configuring or maintaining the secure server.  As a general rule, I've
found that with open-source stuff you usually can't tell apart the
decision-makers from random opinionated hangers-on without actually
doing research or asking . . . it's kind of annoying, but fun!  :)

For what it's worth, I also don't think SSL is worthless.  I don't
personally see any reason to go out of my way to use it, and think
it's a little odd for someone else to do that given the marginal
benefit it would provide by any metric.  But I'd definitely agree that
if it could be enabled for all Wikipedia users by *default* that would
be great.  A small benefit times millions of users can be a very big
benefit.  An ideal Internet would encrypt *and* sign all
communications with no opt-out.  (One of the things I'm looking
forward to if Google Wave takes off!)

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Gregory Maxwell<[email protected]> wrote:
> Provided your changes didn't break the site, I'd take a
> bet that you could have a malware installer running for days before it
> was discovered.

What, on enwiki?  I'd bet ten minutes before it's noticed someone
using NoScript configured to prompt about cross-site loads or
something.  (Maybe not if it just includes an image for DoS purposes,
but then the target would notice soon enough, you'd think . . .)

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