On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:00 AM, Steve Bennett <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Magnus Manske
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Any plans of separating these on edit, then re-attach them to the text
>> on saving? It's low-hanging fruit IMHO.
>
> Good question. IMHO, all position independent stuff (ie, metadata)
> would be better off saved separately, and edited separately. As a
> legacy solution, users could still type [[Category:Blah]] in the main
> edit box, but at save time, it would be moved to the metadata area.

I agree that all this should be stored separately; however, that would
mean a (major) rewrite of things (least of all the dumping process)
and thinking (e.g. the category table suddenly becomes the
authoritative storage for that data, not the wikitext). I was thinking
about a quickly implemented solution that could simulate these effects
for the user without major code revisions.

> References are another example of location-independent metadata that
> should be dealt with like that. But honestly, the Usability people
> seem to be doing a pretty good and know what they're doing. Do they
> need more ideas from us?

Yes, they do a pretty good job; that doesn't mean they have all the
answers (who has? except me of course!:-) or all the ideas. At the
very least, publicly mentioning our ideas can re-enforce their
decision to implement it.

Cheers,
Magnus

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