"Aryeh Gregor" <[email protected]> wrote in message 
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> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:03 AM, David Gerard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Happy-melon <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Changing things on a whim
>> and then requiring communities to build a consensus **to change them 
>> back**
>> is not how we generally approach site configuration.
>
> It is how we do it in my experience.  We don't usually consult
> communities for global feature changes.  The default was chosen by dev
> fiat at some point in the past anyway, so dev fiat may as well be good
> enough to change it.

I'm sure I'm not the only one to see the monstrous hypocrisy in that 
compared to the hoops we'd make the communities jump through if they wanted 
to propose *exactly the same change* from their end.  Fiat *is* required 
when a default is *first chosen*, that's certainly true, and talking to the 
communities before introducing *new* features is indeed the exception rather 
than the rule.  If Special:UnwatchedPages was a new feature we'd be 
perfectly free to pick a target usergroup out of a hat.  But this is a 
proposal to change an already existing feature, a configuration change that 
would be happily LATER'd without a clear consensus from the community in 
question if it came up the other direction.  So I totally disagree: for 
feature **changes**, we most certainly do look to the communities to take 
the lead.

--HM
 



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