On 3/11/10, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hoi,
> I am really happy that we want to help the smaller Wikipedias with uploading
> their pictures. It helps when it is made easy. One of the ways in which we
> can make it easy is to reduce the number of choices involved. When the only
> choice is cc-by-sa, we only need to explain one license.
>
> When the software involved is properly localised in their language,
> confusion will be a lot less.  One of the ways that makes a big difference
> to people is, when they know that a small number of messages provide exactl
> functionality.. The WikiReader and the mobile Wikimedia experience point in
> that direction. There are however two observations; it produces overhead at
> translatewiki.net and it helps when you target people who are actively
> translating for that language.
>
> What you can do is make the local upload facility available once these
> limited number of messages have been localised. In this way it is a reward
> and not depended on an arbitrary number.

I think that's a bad proposal, in at least two ways:
1. It does not answer the _reason_ for this restriction. The problem
is people uploading many copyright violations. Having the interface in
the own language is not going to solve that problem, as is shown by
the simple fact that this policy was started based on experience in
English and other large Wikipedias, which have had full localization
for years
2. The "reward" that you mention does not exist: Getting autoconfirmed
is in general a lesser issue than translating a large part of the
interface, and furthermore the first will happen automatically when
one is active, the second can only be done on a special place that a
random newbie will not be looking for or stumbling upon.

If we're going to make this dependant on something at all, it should
be the presence on active sysops, who are willing to check for
copyright violations. However, personally I would prefer some people
from Commons and/or Stewards taking such a role for wikis which do not
have such sysops. Localizing this part of the interface is definitely
a useful thing to do, but its connection with the problem at hand is
very tenuous.

-- 
AndrĂ© Engels, [email protected]

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