An'n 11.10.2010 23:50, hett Strainu schreven:
> Well, Nikola's solution is limited to interwiki links (I think), so it
> has very little to do with those issues (only the name of the page in
> the central wiki, if I remember correctly).
Interwiki links were the design intent but technically it is a very
small step to include any type of content.
> Regarding the local/remote
> editing, experience has shown me that most people hate to leave their
> home wiki, even if the new wiki is in their native language and has no
> radically different rules. This is especially true for small wikis.
> Editing the data on the central wiki will limit the number of editors.
> This could be a good thing, but I tend to believe it is overall better
> to have many people editing the data.
If you use Commons you have to leave your home wiki too. How would you
manage disputes about edits when these edits don't happen on-wiki?
And Commons too is English-centered. Many people are working on
improving the multilinguality of Commons and circumventing the
limitations of MediaWiki (which really sucks at true multilingual
support) and are quite successful. The localisation degree of Commons
varies heavily between languages, but in languages with active
localizers Commons is easily usable for non-speakers of English.
Discussions can also be done in languages other than English, just
general discussions are mostly English-only. But that's an inherent
issue of any shared content and unfixable. The only alternative to that
is to not share content (this alternative by the way is in no way
limited by the existence of a shared depository. If you don't want to
use the shared content you can always store it locally).
> #2 is in no way linked with number 1. To use the example you have used
> on foundation-l, here is how {{town}} should look in English and
> French for Bucharest:
>
> {{Town
> |name=Bucharest
> |country=Romania
> |pop=2,000,000
> |lat=45.0
> |lon=26.0
> |elevation=12
> |mayor=Sorin Oprescu
> }}
>
> {{Ville
> |nom=Bucarest
> |pays=Roumanie
> |pop=2.000.000
> |lat=45.0
> |lon=26.0
> |hauteur=12
> |maire=Sorin Oprescu
> }}
There's a misunderstanding. The town template wouldn't be stored on
en.wp or fr.wp. It would be stored on the central data repository.
Therefore the population must be stored in plain numbers ("2000000").
Any formatting will be done on the local wikis only (via "formatnum").
The country will be stored as "RO", the ISO 3166 code and this code will
be translated back to "Romania" or "Roumanie" on the local wiki. The
city's name too needs to be stored in a format that makes the local name
in each language accessible.
Marcus Buck
User:Slomox
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