----- Original Message -----
> From: "River Tarnell" <r.tarn...@ieee.org>

> In article
> <18849937.7157.1297583642909.javamail.r...@benjamin.baylink.com>,
> Jay Ashworth <j...@baylink.com> wrote:
> > > Yeah, secure.wikimedia.org's URL scheme isn't really friendly
> > > to outsiders. Historically, this is because SSL certificates are
> > > expensive, and there just wasn't enough money in the budget
> > > to get more of them for the top-level domains. Maybe this isn't
> > > the case anymore.
> 
> > Is that in fact the root cause, Chad? I assumed, myself, that it's
> > because
> > of the squid architecture.
> 
> LVS is in front of Squid, so it would be fairly simple to send SSL
> traffic (port 443) to a different machine; which is how secure.wm.o
> works now, except that instead of using LVS, it requires a different
> hostname.

Got it.

> However, I think the idea is not to start allowing
> https://en.wikipedia.org URLs until there's a better SSL
> infrastructure
> which can handle the extra load an easy-to-use, widely advertised SSL
> gateway is likely to create. secure.wm.o is currently a single machine
> and sometimes falls over, e.g. when Squid breaks for some reason and
> people notice that secure still works.

You did get the "EFF is pushing a Firefox plugin that has a rule that 
redirects all WP accesses to the secure site" part of that report, though,
right?  This curve has probably already started to ramp; now might be a
good time for someone ops-y to be thinking about this.

Cheers,
-- jra

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