Olivier, I'm truly sorry you had such a negative experience. This is not 
an acceptable situation. We have an inconsistent process, and one which 
is a bit heavyweight when our resourcing for it is rather lightweight.

I wish you had found the patience to assume good faith. There is no 
reason for accusations that we don't want good developers. Of course we 
*want* them. If we are failing to act like it, it wasn't a personal slam 
at you.

And, if I may be forgiven for white-knighting, Sumana's job is to needle 
the rest of us so we don't forget about concerns like yours and she 
generally does it very well. And she did sound an apologetic note into 
the email she sent you. So IMO she's not the problem here. Why she 
played a game of telephone here is a bit of a mystery to me though -- 
maybe she just wanted to be sure that *someone* pinged you since it had 
been so long. IMO the developer who reviewed your code should have 
contacted you directly.

I had a look at the module you wrote. I share some of the same concerns 
about scalability, but that's not really the issue.

I have some experience with user-contributed module archives, having 
administered some shared community resources for Perl, Python, and so 
on. The cultural differences and relative successes were interesting. 
The Python people wanted to have a review process, and a GUI interface, 
and binary modules precompiled, and so on and so on, and their projects 
never really got off the ground. Perl's CPAN started off as a simple FTP 
site where almost anyone could upload code. Guess which one ultimately 
succeeded. The point is, IMO there's relatively little payoff for having 
*any* review process for modules. Just have a way to report and remove 
malware and be done with it. As long as it's clear that the Foundation 
doesn't endorse the software there, what is the problem? Maybe we can 
also have some kind of badge for "reviewed" or "as seen on Wikipedia" 
for the stuff we consider good enough to deploy on big sites.

We already more or less do this -- for instance, there are modules by 
GSoC students that are clearly not ready for prime time, and they are 
marked accordingly.



On 11/4/11 11:47 PM, MZMcBride wrote:

> The long and short of my advice is this: fuck MediaWiki. If they're
> unwilling to accept your contributions, there are a lot of other FOSS
> projects that would be happy to have you. Thrilled to have you, even. I'd
> strongly encourage finding one. :-)

And why should he listen to you, when you are unwilling to follow your 
own advice?

-- 
Neil Kandalgaonkar  |) <[email protected]>

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