* Chad <[email protected]> [Thu, 10 Nov 2011 10:59:49 -0500]:
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Petr Bena <[email protected]> 
wrote:
> > right, if I understand this, the problem is only with installer, so
> > wouldn't it be better just to make some workaround for older 
versions
> of
> > php for installer rather than forcing user to upgrade, while it
> actually
> > doesn't have effect on mediawiki which is already installed and
> working?
> >
>
> We wouldn't be forcing anyone to upgrade unless they're attempting a
> fresh MediaWiki installation and using < 5.2.7.
>
> And TBH: if we wait for CentOS to support 5.3, we'll be looking at 5.2
> support for another 5 or 6 years. But we're not bumping to 5.3 support
> anyway, this is just a minor jump from 5.2.3 -> .7
>
It is probably even more worth to encourage upgrade to PHP 5.4: I've 
seen the benchmarks and it seems to run about 1.5-2 times faster and 
have memory footprint 2-3 times lower comparing to 5.3. Perhaps Tim 
Starling's discussion with PHP core developers encouraged them to 
improve Zend. Maybe even HipHop is not that much needed as PHP 5.4. The 
question is, how to encourage conservative package maintainers to push 
such package updates into their distributions. Because not everyone has 
root and even not everyone who have root are ready to compile from 
sources. I've seen few articles, especially about Ubuntu, that compiling 
is discouraged! Which is very strange, I remember it was encouraged back 
in late 90's early 2000's.
Dmitriy

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