I wanted to say "volunteer projects" which are affiliated with various wikimedia projects
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Petr Bena <[email protected]> wrote: > There is a difference between wikimedia projects which are somehow > related to wikimedia projects, and foundation projects which are > funded by foundation. But this difference is only about people and > money, so why should we have a different wiki for that > > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Petr Bena <[email protected]> wrote: >> I don't understand why? Wikitech is a perfect place for bots >> documentation as well, especially when it comes to large bots operated >> by many people, these needs to have documentation so that they can be >> overtaken by someone else in case the original person who launched >> bot, doesn't have a time to maintain it. >> >> Why should it be for foundation only projects? >> >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Krinkle <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On Jun 7, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Ryan Lane wrote: >>> >>>>> I'm not sure if it makes sense to have the Labs/OpenStack/Nova management >>>>> interface on this same "new wikitech" wiki though. This means that all the >>>>> community projects running inside labs will/might use this same wiki to >>>>> document >>>>> their internal structure - which can (and should be) a lot of projects >>>>> that are >>>>> not Wikimedia engineering projects. >>>>> >>>>> Documentation for labs as being a Wikimedia project makes sense, but the >>>>> actual >>>>> projects inside and management maybe don't fit well inside the new >>>>> wikitech. I >>>>> like that of the labsconsole. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Do you mean they aren't *staff* engineering projects? Labs is meant to >>>> be a stepping stone. For most projects, the idea is that people will >>>> implement something in Labs and it'll get moved into production. The >>>> documentation for that project will then be the documentation for Labs >>>> and production. >>>> >>>> One of the biggest reasons I wanted to merge the wikis is because I >>>> feel that volunteer operations engineers should be documenting their >>>> infrastructure changes in the same place as staff operations >>>> engineers. >>>> >>>> - Ryan >>> >>> No, that's not what I meant. >>> >>> Contributions (from whomever) to for example the production cluster puppets >>> (through gerrit), that may have an RFC on wikitechwiki ahead of time sounds >>> awesome. Stuff can be proposed by whomever, and then implemented by >>> whomever. Then tested in labs and merged/pushed to production. >>> >>> I was refering to projects that will not be foundation engineering >>> projects, or at least do not intend to be that. >>> >>> *cut 2 paragraphs* >>> >>> ...when trying to come up with examples, it turns out that those examples >>> (Tool-Labs: early extension development, bot hosting, slow-query tools, ..) >>> probably wouldn't put their documentation on either wikitech or >>> labsconsole, so nevermind. >>> >>> -- Krinkle >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikitech-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
