I agree with Petr, I see no reason to put them on different wikis.
Namespaces are cheap.

-Chad
On Jun 7, 2012 11:20 AM, "Petr Bena" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't understand why? Wikitech is a perfect place for bots
> documentation as well, especially when it comes to large bots operated
> by many people, these needs to have documentation so that they can be
> overtaken by someone else in case the original person who launched
> bot, doesn't have a time to maintain it.
>
> Why should it be for foundation only projects?
>
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Krinkle <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Jun 7, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Ryan Lane wrote:
> >
> >>> I'm not sure if it makes sense to have the Labs/OpenStack/Nova
> management
> >>> interface on this same "new wikitech" wiki though. This means that all
> the
> >>> community projects running inside labs will/might use this same wiki
> to document
> >>> their internal structure - which can (and should be) a lot of projects
> that are
> >>> not Wikimedia engineering projects.
> >>>
> >>> Documentation for labs as being a Wikimedia project makes sense, but
> the actual
> >>> projects inside and management maybe don't fit well inside the new
> wikitech. I
> >>> like that of the labsconsole.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Do you mean they aren't *staff* engineering projects? Labs is meant to
> >> be a stepping stone. For most projects, the idea is that people will
> >> implement something in Labs and it'll get moved into production. The
> >> documentation for that project will then be the documentation for Labs
> >> and production.
> >>
> >> One of the biggest reasons I wanted to merge the wikis is because I
> >> feel that volunteer operations engineers should be documenting their
> >> infrastructure changes in the same place as staff operations
> >> engineers.
> >>
> >> - Ryan
> >
> > No, that's not what I meant.
> >
> > Contributions (from whomever) to for example the production cluster
> puppets (through gerrit), that may have an RFC on wikitechwiki ahead of
> time sounds awesome. Stuff can be proposed by whomever, and then
> implemented by whomever. Then tested in labs and merged/pushed to
> production.
> >
> > I was refering to projects that will not be foundation engineering
> projects, or at least do not intend to be that.
> >
> > *cut 2 paragraphs*
> >
> > ...when trying to come up with examples, it turns out that those
> examples   (Tool-Labs: early extension development, bot hosting, slow-query
> tools, ..) probably wouldn't put their documentation on either wikitech or
> labsconsole, so nevermind.
> >
> > -- Krinkle
> >
> >
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