The idea that we are trying to attract new users at the detriment of the
existing ones is putting words in our mouths, but I do know what you mean.
The good news is that many of us are very conscious about these issues.

Here are some excerpts, for instance from the VisualEditor software design
document[1]:

   - "Visual editing should first improve the usability of the most common
   tasks. Less frequent tasks may still be performed using a source code
   editing mode."
   - "Visual editing should enhance, not degrade, the ability to inspect
   what was changed between revisions."
   - "At the very least, a visual editor should not make more work for
   administrators and editors who are reviewing edits done by others."

VisualEditor isn't alone in these beliefs, but I realize also that they are
not held widely (yet) enough either.

[1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Software_design#Objectives

- Trevor

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <[email protected]>wrote:

> About colleagues vs. customers: I don't think it can be considered a
> misunderstanding by the community, it's largely due to what the WMF really
> wants.
> The WMF, as the article puts it, doesn't [necessarily] want to work better
> with the existing community (-> colleagues) by providing what's felt useful
> /for them/ to get things done; instead, it largely assumes that what's
> disliked or even plainly harmful now is actually good, if it can attract a
> new demographic of users which will like it (-> new customers).
> And more: changing the demographic by ignoring the existing one is
> sometimes the very aim of changes; community is assumed broken (it scares
> people off), consensus even more so (we can't get anything decided, we need
> "leaders" – surely not pre-emptive consensus), nobody is indispensable (we
> have a big turnover, we only need to improve "_new_ editors retention").
> And yes, this sometimes borders social experiments (eugenetics? :-) ).
> I'm not going to prove all this*; it's nasty to "the community", but
> there's also a lot of truth in it and all in good faith.
>
> Nemo
>
> (*) I could quote individual WMF developers or officers but that would be
> tough and unnecessary: it's the official strategy, just seen from a
> different perspective (by stretching it a bit perhaps).
>
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