On 4 September 2012 13:06, Chad <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 8:02 AM, David Gerard <[email protected]> wrote:

>> The essential problem is that people can't get stuff through the
>> gatekeepers, so they come up with a workaround. Noting that the
>> workaround is insecure and saying "just don't do that" doesn't solve
>> the original need and won't help security. It's not clear to me what
>> will, but the gatekeeping is an obvious start.

> The problem with creating a new system that has no gatekeepers
> is that it encourages people who have no business writing code to
> end up doing so.


Yeah, I didn't say the results were *good*. Just that saying "don't do
that" won't stop it at all. The urge will be there as long as there
are gatekeepers, but the harm does need to be minimised.


> Lowering bars, making it easy to jump into the shallow end, giving
> people feedback so they can improve--these are all good things we
> can and should do.


This has long been said, of course.


- d.

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