A few random points:

We should get some basic structure conventions in place before stuff goes wild.

I like the idea of installing a Skin as an extension, but placing it in the 
core skins directory
feels wrong because it currently does auto-discovery to some degree, and of 
course it means
wgExtensionAssetsPath can't be used as skins as it is outside that directory 
view.

The way the skins in mediawiki/extensions/skins.git do it is by simply being 
installed as a completely valid extension.

Another problem I found in the current setup is that its a bit 
counter-intuitive how to manage the directory structure for developers. I mean, 
most of us probably have this:

- mediawiki
- /core (clone mediawiki/core.git)
- /extensions (directory with clones of individual extensions or clone of 
mediawiki/extensions.git tracking repo)

* Set $wgExtensionAssetsPath accordingly
* Use require_once( "$IP/../extensions/Foo/Foo.php"); (whether or not via a tmp 
variable)
  instead of require_once( "$IP/extensions/Foo/Foo.php");

But then, where to clone a skins repository (or mediawiki/skins.git tracking 
repo)?

Wherever it is, it needs to be scalable to more complex installations. A 
directory "skins" next to "extensions" next to "core" is not feasible as the 
paths would be incorrect (it wouldn't be in wgExtensionAssetsPath, nor in 
wgStylePath).

I think it'd be a lot easier if skins were installed as extensions, not as a 
(currently, unhandleable) hybrid.

Maybe as proper extensions in mediawiki/extensions/SkinName.git (and drop 
mediawiki/skins/*.git).
That would be the easier, though it is also nice to keep extensions and skins 
separate enough in that anything that adds preferences, special pages etc. is 
in a separate optional repository.

Or perhaps agree that skins should be installed from mediawiki/skins/*.git 
repositories, but clones inside mediawiki/extensions/skins/*. That would mean 
in module definitions and require's, we just add an extra /skins/.

In that case we should get rid of mediawiki/extensions/skins.git to avoid 
clashes.

-- Krinkle


On Sep 26, 2012, at 1:44 AM, Daniel Friesen <[email protected]> wrote:

> Skin pages on MW.org (and repos in Gerrit) are now ready.
> 
> MediaWiki.org is now ready for modern skins (ones NOT using old QuickTemplate 
> and skins/Foo.php patterns) to have pages about them just like extensions do.
> 
> Relevant links:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:All_skins
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Skin
> 
> Some examples that currently exist:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Erudite
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Vector
> 
> Gerrit can also handle your skin repos. Ask for a mediawiki/skins/{skinname} 
> repo.
> So your skins can now have proper review and be updated with the various 
> improvements that get made to MediaWiki's skinning system.
> 
> When you do introduce a skin here please do follow the file layout patterns I 
> used in my tutorials:
> http://blog.redwerks.org/2012/02/08/mediawiki-skinning-tutorial/
> http://blog.redwerks.org/2012/02/28/mediawiki-subskin-tutorial/
> I don't want to see any non-core skins using the outdated skins/TheSkin.php 
> pattern in the new skins area.
> 
> -- 
> ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name]
> 
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