On 09/28/2012 12:29 PM, Chad wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Mark A. Hershberger <[email protected]> > wrote: >>> I think Chad (^demon) was the the one focusing on this area. We should >>> ask him what his plans were. >> >> Working code > great plans. >> >> Chad has replied. I think he would agree that we don't think we need to >> hold back on dependency management to wait for him to produce something. >> >> Indeed, Antoine has already implemented some sort of Composer support to >> help him manage the environment he is charged with. I recommend we >> follow his lead and build on that. >> >> This is the whole problem with Cookie Licking. Productive people have >> lots of great ideas, but we shouldn't let ideas get in the way of actual >> progress. >> >> And just so it is absolutely clear: I have an enormous amount of respect >> for Chad and admire the work he has been doing. I just don't want us to >> put all our hopes on what Chad *plans* to do when we have other people >> with ideas and ability. >> > > I had plans for this, insofar as I have plans for lots of things. > I've never committed to doing this, so nobody should wait on > me. > > -Chad
(a little offtopic) In my household we have a word for "sort of a plan but nothing definite and still in flux". It is a plin. A plin turns into a plan once you've made a real commitment that has a cost. For example, a vacation plin turns into a plan when I buy airplane tickets. I think the equivalent of an expensive commitment in our community is a public statement like "I will spend the next week working on $foo" or "I will deliver $bar by the end of the month" or even "I am actively working on $baz and will review new contributors' code in a timely fashion". That is more like a plan. Plins are good! We need brainstorming and good intentions. But they are not really plans. I agree with Mark about the danger of cookie-licking http://communitymgt.wikia.com/wiki/Cookie_Licking . BE BOLD (and loud) in overriding other people's plins with your own efforts! -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation P.S. if you hate the idea of me using the word "plin" please contact me offlist to bikeshed a new term kthxbye :) _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
