Well in that case maybe we can get some sort of official design document
going so that we're planning rather than plinning. :P

*--*
*Tyler Romeo*
Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015
Major in Computer Science
www.whizkidztech.com | [email protected]



On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Sumana Harihareswara <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On 09/28/2012 12:29 PM, Chad wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Mark A. Hershberger <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>> I think Chad (^demon) was the the one focusing on this area. We should
> >>> ask him what his plans were.
> >>
> >> Working code > great plans.
> >>
> >> Chad has replied.  I think he would agree that we don't think we need to
> >> hold back on dependency management to wait for him to produce something.
> >>
> >> Indeed, Antoine has already implemented some sort of Composer support to
> >> help him manage the environment he is charged with.  I recommend we
> >> follow his lead and build on that.
> >>
> >> This is the whole problem with Cookie Licking.  Productive people have
> >> lots of great ideas, but we shouldn't let ideas get in the way of actual
> >> progress.
> >>
> >> And just so it is absolutely clear: I have an enormous amount of respect
> >> for Chad and admire the work he has been doing.  I just don't want us to
> >> put all our hopes on what Chad *plans* to do when we have other people
> >> with ideas and ability.
> >>
> >
> > I had plans for this, insofar as I have plans for lots of things.
> > I've never committed to doing this, so nobody should wait on
> > me.
> >
> > -Chad
>
> (a little offtopic)
>
> In my household we have a word for "sort of a plan but nothing definite
> and still in flux".  It is a plin.
>
> A plin turns into a plan once you've made a real commitment that has a
> cost.  For example, a vacation plin turns into a plan when I buy
> airplane tickets.
>
> I think the equivalent of an expensive commitment in our community is a
> public statement like "I will spend the next week working on $foo" or "I
> will deliver $bar by the end of the month" or even "I am actively
> working on $baz and will review new contributors' code in a timely
> fashion".  That is more like a plan.
>
> Plins are good! We need brainstorming and good intentions.  But they are
> not really plans.
>
> I agree with Mark about the danger of cookie-licking
> http://communitymgt.wikia.com/wiki/Cookie_Licking .  BE BOLD (and loud)
> in overriding other people's plins with your own efforts!
>
> --
> Sumana Harihareswara
> Engineering Community Manager
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
> P.S.  if you hate the idea of me using the word "plin" please contact me
> offlist to bikeshed a new term kthxbye :)
>
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