Thomas PT <thomaspt <at> hotmail.fr> writes: > > Hi! > Your proposal looks very good. I'll be very happy to help you as co-mentor on this project if is no GSoc > project for Proofread Page. > > Some comments: > 1. You should keep in mind that the extension will be used by Wikibook and Wikisource communities so these > communities must be involve in the project. > 2. For Wikisource, the extension should be nicely integrated with the current proofreading workflow > managed by Proofread Page (this can be done in a second time but we should keep it in mind). > 3. The extension should, I think, be able to manage metadata about books like the author(s) in order to be > able to provide these information in the exported files. The metadata have sometime to be input by the > contributors (like the author of a Wikisource book) or to be get from MediaWiki (like the authors of > Wikibook books that are the contributors of the book pages) or maybe, in the future, even get from Wikidata. > 4. The extension must be simple to use. I believe that one of the main goal is to simplify the edition > workflow. So, new wikicode syntax to learn for basic users should be avoided as much as possible (this > doesn't concern syntax that will only be used in templates). > > A good way to archive these goals is maybe be to make book main pages not wikitext based pages, but a page that > store in a structured format (like JSON) metadata of the book, a table of content and some free text spaces, > all of that edited via a clever form. For that, we can reuse some code written for the Wikidata project > (storage with the Content handler, Diff system, DataValue library...). > Working in that way will allow to get nice and well-formatted metadata that can be used to improve > cataloging of books and avoid the need for people to learn new tags, templates or parser functions in order > to create a new books. But this will require more development time. > > What do you think about it? > Thomas > > (I CC the members of the "Elaborate Wikisource strategic vision" group) > > > Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 12:16:44 -0400 > > From: gorillawarfarewikipedia <at> gmail.com > > To: wikitech-l <at> lists.wikimedia.org > > Subject: [Wikitech-l] GSoC 2013: Improve support for book structures > > > > Hi! I'm Molly White, or GorillaWarfare on the WMF projects. I'm planning to > > submit a proposal to the WMF for this summer's Google Summer of Code (and > > probably also the Outreach Program for Women) and was hoping to get some > > feedback. See my proposal at > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:GorillaWarfare/Proposal. > > > > I would like to improve support for projects (like Wikisource and > > Wikibooks) that have content that's structured as a book and not as an > > article. I plan to do this by working on the existing BookManager > > extension. It's currently unstable and very much in development, so there's > > a lot of room for improvement. > > > > Do you have any feedback, concerns, suggestions, etc.? Do you think the > > project is feasible for GSoC? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Molly White > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l <at> lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l <at> lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Wow, thank you so much for your detailed reply. I would love to have you as a co-mentor, assuming no one is available to work on the Proofread Page extension. Regarding your suggestions: I've posted on both English and Multilingual Wikisource regarding my ideas, but I will do so again when I have a more specific plan. I'll also communicate with the Wikibooks community. I'm sure both communities will have a lot of useful feedback. How do you envision this integrating with Proofread Page? The vision I had of this extension was as a somewhat separate process, but I think the more the process can be simplified, the better. I strongly agree about the metadata. I will be more specific in my proposal that I intend to include the ability to add that on the book organization page. I also like the idea of integrating it with WikiData. I had planned to use a form-type organization page, and not to try to organize it using wikitext. I really like the JSON idea, actually; I think that might be the perfect format for this. I will start looking at the WikiData code to get an idea of how they use it. Thanks so much, Molly White _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
