Hoi,

I am not so much interested in what they use. What I would like to suggest
is that we have partners in both Africa and Asia. They are likely to have
the expertise to run a caching centre on our behalf. They provide us a
service in bringing Wikipedia at no cost to their customers. When we pay
them to run a non-discriminatory caching service, it would increase our
service and maybe even the cost of transatlantic traffic.
Thanks,
      GerardM


On 19 October 2013 13:25, Leslie Carr <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Gerard Meijssen
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hoi,
> > Are some of our partners in Wikipedia Zero not caching already ?
> > Thanks,
> >       GerardM
> >
> >
> Are you asking if they have varnish caches (they do not) or if they
> are using some web caching on their environment (which is possible,
> using transparent proxies , though I do not know of providers who use
> them... however my mobile web ecosystem knowledge is limited)
>
> > On 19 October 2013 12:59, Leslie Carr <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Maarten Dammers <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi Ken,
> >> >
> >> > Op 18-10-2013 22:05, Ken Snider schreef:
> >> >
> >> >> The Wikimedia Foundation's Technical Operations team is seeking
> >> proposals
> >> >> on the provisioning of a new data-centre facility.
> >> >>
> >> >> After working through the specifics internally, we now have a public
> RFP
> >> >> posted[1] and ready for proposals. We invite any organization meeting
> >> the
> >> >> requirements outlined to submit a proposal for review.
> >> >
> >> > You have stated some technical requirements, but not the availability
> you
> >> > would like to have. You probably want to include that you're looking
> for
> >> a
> >> > tier-4 data center
> >> > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tier_4_data_center#Data_center_tiers).
> Is
> >> > this one going to replace the Florida data center? Where are you
> keeping
> >> > documentation these days? The information on wikitech seems to be very
> >> > incomplete and outdated.
> >>
> >> Wikitech is our best source of documentation....
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Something related: While travelling in China I noticed the bad
> >> performance
> >> > of our sites. Would it be a good idea to investigate this (lack of)
> >> > performance and maybe consider a caching site somewhere in Asia? The
> >> latency
> >> > should be much better than getting is all the way from the USA.
> >> > http://www.glif.is/publications/maps/GLIF_5-11_World_4k.jpg (from
> >> > http://www.glif.is/publications/maps/) gives a good idea of
> >> connectivity by
> >> > the way.
> >>
> >> (Employee hat) - we are starting to move some of the Asian traffic to
> >> a new caching center on the US west coast, which has helped latency.
> >> (Personal hat) - I would love to get an Asian caching center (Hong
> >> Kong or Tokyo would be my top 2 choices), but IMHO the biggest barrier
> >> to this the time and availability of people resources.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Maarten
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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