>> Shawn Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

> 1.  The Memento protocol has a resource called a TimeMap [1]
> that takes an article name and returns text formatted as
> application/link-format.  This text contains a machine-readable
> list of all of the prior revisions (mementos) of this page.  It is
> currently implemented as a SpecialPage which can be accessed like
> http://www.example.com/index.php/Special:TimeMap/Article_Name.
> Is this the best method, or is it more preferable for us to
> extend the Action class and add a new action to $wgActions
> in order to return a TimeMap from the regular page like
> http://www.example.com/index.php?title=Article_Name&action=gettimemap
> without using the SpecialPage?  Is there another preferred way of
> solving this problem?

It just occured to be that if TimeMap were a microformat, this
information could be embeded in to ?title=Article_Name&action=history
itself.

Even then, if we need an additional MIME type for that maybe
we could vary action=history response based on the desired MIME
type (text/html or linking format).

> 3.  In order to create the correct headers for use with the Memento
> protocol, we have to generate URIs.  To accomplish this, we use the
> $wgServer global variable (through a layer of abstraction); how do we
> correctly handle situations if it isn't set by the installation?  Is
> there an alternative?  Is there a better way to construct URIs?

We have wfExpandUrl (yes, there are some bugs currently wrt empty $wgServer
now... https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54950).

> 5.  Is there a way to get previous revisions of embedded content, like
> images?  I tried using the ImageBeforeProduceHTML hook, but found that
> setting the $time parameter didn't return a previous revision of an
> image.  Am I doing something wrong?  Is there a better way?

I'm not in a position to give you a full answer, but what I would
do I would try to see if I can setup a MediaWiki with $wgInstantCommons = true
and see how I can make ForeignAPIRepo to fetch older revisions
from Wikimedia via API. Then we can have a look at other media
storage backends, including those used by WMF installation.

> 7.  We have two styles for serving pages back to the user:
>        * 302-style[2], which uses a 302 redirect to tell the user's browser 
> to go fetch the old revision of the page (e.g. 
> http://www.example.com/index.php?title=Article&oldid=12345)
>        * 200-style[3], which actually modifies the page content in place so 
> that it resembles the old revision of the page
>      Which of these styles is preferable as a default?

I guess that 302 is better. Sounds like a much better idea due to caching
(to me).

> 8.  Some sites don't wish to have their past Talk/Discussion pages
> accessible via Memento.  We have the ability to exclude namespaces
> (Talk, Template, Category, etc.) via configurable option.  By default
> it excludes nothing.  What namespaces should be excluded by default?

There might be interesting issues about deleted content, some
people feel very strongly about making it unavailable to others
(partly due to some legal issues); some people setup wikis dedicated
to provide content deleted from Wikipedia. Are you sure history
should not be redacted at times? :-)

Not sure why somebody does not like archiving Talk pages like this
but I think this feature could be enabled per-namespace like many
others in MediaWiki. Archiving media and files will be certainly different
and you will run into interesting issues with versioning Categories
and Templates. Extension:FlaggedRevs has some method to
track what kind of ancilliary content has been modified 
(FRInclusionManager.php and FRInclusionCache.php might be things
to look at).

And a question back to you:

How are you going to handle versioning of stuff like MediaWiki:Common.js,
MediaWiki:Common.css independently of the proper content itself?
Some changes might affect presentation of the content meaningfully,
for example see how https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Nts works.

If you don't know already, PediaPress developed generator
of static documents out of wiki content (http://code.pediapress.com/,
see Extension:Collection) and they had to deal with lots of
similar issues in their renderer, mwlib. The renderer accesses
the wiki as a client and fetches all ancillary content as needed.


//Saper


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