On 11/06/2013 02:33 AM, Quim Gil wrote:

> > Do the three architects consider themselves assuming this role as WMF
> > employees or as community members?
>

For myself -- I've been a Wikipedia & MediaWiki community contributor since
long before there was a Wikimedia Foundation. I still think of WMF as the
new kid on the block... ;)

That said, my employment at WMF is what pays my bills and ensures I keep
the majority of my attention poking at the Wikipedia and MediaWiki
ecosystem (currently concentrating on the mobile world with a slice of
general maintenance, code review, and architecture planning). When I spent
a year and a half working at another company, I did find I had much less
time to spend on MediaWiki.


> > Do they consider their roles to be part of a MediaWiki centric
> > meritocracy or a Wikimedia centric meritocracy?
>

MediaWiki's development is traditionally Wikipedia- and Wikimedia-centric
(not necessarily Wikimedia Foundation-centric); it was created for
Wikipedia and I personally got involved in it to support Wikipedia's
various multilingual editions. Generalized usage of MW has always been a
secondary, though important, goal, and I expect Wikipedia/Wikimedia will
continue to be central in MW's development for the forseeable future, even
assuming we put a lot more effort into third-party support (which I think
we should!)

I also caution against use of the "meritocracy" term, as I think it's
pretty loaded and has a history of enabling stagnation and ingraining of
cabals and antisocial behavior in free software communities. While I
certainly like to think I've earned my fancy title with years of hard work,
there are strong social/popularity and random-event components in any kind
of ranking like this.


> > What is their opinion about moving forward their current team of three?
>

I'm not sure the "architects" really exist as a team of three; I feel like
that's a fairly arbitrary selection of longtime contributors who,
currently, have "architect" in their job title.

There's similarity in subsets of what we do, and some direct overlap -- Tim
and I both comment on code and code designs and do the occasional big RFC
review session; Tim and Mark both comment on and help debug ops and
performance issues -- but we're not the 3 Musketeers... :)


> > Because these three long-term contributors have earned their community
> > reputation and are clearly smart, the chances are that many of us would
> > agree with any common answer they would agree with themselves.
>

:D

-- brion
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