Brad,

Thank you for the detail explanation, and for purging several this and related 
files. I will remember about " forcelinkupdate" purge option in case I run into 
one of those again. 

Jarek T.
(user:jarekt)




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From: [email protected] 
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(Anomie)
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 12:21 PM
To: Wikimedia developers
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] File sources and spam blacklist

On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Tuszynski, Jaroslaw W. < 
[email protected]> wrote:

> Over the years while editing on Commons,  I run several times  into 
> lock down pages that can't be edited. The issue is that after the page 
> was created the website listed as the image source was added to the 
> list of blocked sites by the spam filter as blacklisted external site. 
> As a result unless someone delete valid source the image cannot be 
> categorized or altered in any way.


That is not (supposed to be) correct, since 2008.[1] A page containing a 
blacklisted link is supposed to be editable as long as the existing blacklisted 
link isn't changed.

If a different blacklisted link is added or the blacklisted link is changed to 
a different blacklisted link, then the blacklist would apply to that 
new/changed link, of course.

 [1]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/34769

See for example
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Masopust_dr%C5%BE%C3%ADme_14.j
> pg
>

The problem with that page was that somehow the metadata stored in the database 
claimed that it did not contain any external links, so the check "is this 
blacklisted link already in the existing version of the article?"
was failing. The metadata was also lacking various other templates and such

Purging the page via the API with the forcelinkupdate option updated that 
metadata, and then I was able to make a dummy edit.[2]

Looking further into the issue, it appears that pages on Commons are sometimes 
somehow hitting the expansion depth limit when being parsed for the metadata, 
despite there seeming to be no reason for them to be coming anywhere near the 
limit. That file was a particularly bad case, it appears to have somehow hit 
the limit without expanding *any* templates. I have been unable to find what 
might be causing this.


 [2]:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Masopust_dr%C5%BE%C3%ADme_14.jpg&diff=113090503&oldid=102671151


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Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
Software Engineer
Wikimedia Foundation
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