Brion, Happy to ping the Fedora team on this bug. They participate in our Language Summits which we organize with Red Hat India.
Best, Alolita On Mar 3, 2014 12:22 PM, "Brion Vibber" <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for doing this research! > > I notice that while Liberation Sans got a high score for appearance, it got > a very low technical score... Since it is a FOSS project < > https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-fonts/> we should attempt to file bug > reports with Red Hat about any problems we discover, and/or post our > findings on the fedora-fonts mailing list. > > -- brion > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Ryan Kaldari <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > I spent most of Friday working on font evaluation with the designers. > First > > I presented them with a blind "taste test" of 10 potential body fonts. 7 > of > > them were FOSS fonts, 3 were commercial. Each one was used to render an > > identical section of Lorem Ipsum text in a MedaWiki page. Each font was > > given a "style" score based on readability, neutrality, and "authority" > > (does the font look like it conveys reliable information). Interestingly, > > of the 4 fonts that they preferred, 3 of them were the commercial fonts. > > The only FOSS font that scored highly was Liberation Sans. > > > > Next, I did a blind technical evaluation. For this, I used each of the 10 > > fonts to render combining diacritics, ties, and other "obscure" Unicode > > features. Then I gave each font a score based on how many problems it had > > rendering the characters. > > > > Finally, I researched the installation base of each font, i.e. what > > operating systems it is installed on by default and also gave scores for > > this. > > > > The results can be seen at > > > > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Typography_refresh/Font_choice#Body_font_evaluation > > . > > > > The highest scoring fonts were: Arial, Helvetica, Helvetica Neue, and > > Liberation Sans, so I'm going to suggest that all of these fonts be > > included in the body stack, with the preference order based on the > "style" > > scores. Although Liberation Sans and Helvetica Neue tied on the style > > score, I'm going to suggest that Liberation Sans go first since it is a > > FOSS font: > > > > div#content { > > font-family: Liberation Sans, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, > > sans-serif; > > } > > > > Additional feedback is welcome. > > > > Ryan Kaldari > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) < > > [email protected] > > > wrote: > > > > > I came across Gerrit change 79948[1] today, which makes "VectorBeta" > > > use a pile of non-free fonts (with one free font thrown in at the end > > > as a sop). Is this really the direction we want to go, considering > > > that in many other areas we prefer to use free software whenever we > > > can? > > > > > > Looking around a bit, I see this has been discussed in some "back > > > corners"[2][3] (no offense intended), but not on this list and I don't > > > see any place where free versus non-free was actually discussed rather > > > than being brought up and then seemingly ignored. > > > > > > In case it helps, I did some searching through mediawiki/core and > > > WMF-deployed extensions for font-family directives containing non-free > > > fonts. The results are at > > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Anomie/font-family (use of > > > non-staff account intentional). > > > > > > > > > [1]: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/79948 > > > [2]: > > > > > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Design/Typography#Arial.3F_18136 > > > [3]: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44394 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
