This proposal makes no sense: all these namespaces _are_ dependent on wiki
language, so even if you force "Project" down the throats of non-English
users, project talk would still be e.g. Project_ахцәажәара for Abkhazian
wikis and so on. Thus, you're attempting to disrupt MediaWiki's
localizability for the sake of your ephemerous Inclumedia project. I don't
think this is what our users want.


On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Nathan Larson
<[email protected]>wrote:

> I propose that we change the installer to make Project:, rather than the
> wiki name, the default option for meta namespace
> <Manual:$wgMetaNamespace>name (i.e. namespace
> 4 <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Namespace#Built-in_namespaces>).
> See bug 60168 <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60168>. Here
> is an image of what I have in mind that the installer should show:
>
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/b/b9/ProjectDefaultNamespace.png
>
> Rationales:
> 1) Standardizing the name makes life easier when people copy content from
> one wiki to another. E.g., if you import a template that links to
> Project:Policy rather than BarWiki:Policy, you don't need to edit the
> imported template, because it already links where it should.
>
> 2) Having the meta namespace name be the same as the wiki name causes
> collisions with interwiki prefixes when content is copied from one wiki to
> another. E.g., suppose FooWiki has an interwiki prefix linking to BarWiki
> (barwiki:) and then a user imports a template from BarWiki that links to
> BarWiki:Policy. That will now link interwiki to BarWiki's mainspace page
> "Policy" rather than to Project:Policy. It is not even possible to import
> BarWiki:Policy until the interwiki barwiki: prefix is first removed; the
> importer will say "Page 'BarWiki:Policy' is not imported because its name
> is reserved for external linking (interwiki)."
>
> 3) If you ever change the name of the wiki, you then have to change all the
> wikilinks to FooWiki: namespace; if it were Project:, they would stay the
> same. True, you can use namespace
> aliases<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgNamespaceAliases>,
> but that could defeat part of the point of rebranding, which is to
> deprecate use of the old wiki name.
>
> 4) We don't have any other namespace names (User, Template, etc.) that are,
> by default, different from one wiki to the next; what is the logic for
> making an exception for the meta namespace?
>
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Max Semenik ([[User:MaxSem]])
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