On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Rob Lanphier <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Tim Starling <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > In the next RFC meeting we would like to discuss the following RFC:
> >
> > * Text extraction
> > <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Text_extraction>
> >
> > The meeting will be on the IRC channel #wikimedia-office on
> > irc.freenode.org at the following time:
> >
> > * UTC: Wednesday 21:00
> > * US PST: Wednesday 13:00
> > * Europe CET: Wednesday 22:00
> > * Australia AEDT: Thursday 08:00
> >
> > Please note that the time has changed. It is an hour earlier so that
> > it will be easier for people in Europe to attend.
>
> We (collectively) need to get a lot better about not merely signaling
> what is coming up, but what the results of these decisions are.  If
> you look here:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_meetings
>
> ...you could be forgiven for thinking the RFC meetings are something
> we do anymore.  Basically, you have to be subscribed to this mailing
> list, and then, if you miss the time, fish through the logs here:
> https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2014/
>
> ...and hope that some glitch hasn't wiped out the logs, since I don't
> think there are any service level expectations for those logs.
>
> I send this mail not to beat up on the Architecture Committee, but in
> the hopes that we can find some wikignome volunteers to help out.  To
> the extent that it's not realistic to duplicate mailing list
> announcements to mediawiki.org, we should probably just say "join
> wikitech-l to receive announcements on meeting timing", and generally,
> if we need to teach people how to fish rather than serving them
> beautifully-plated caviar, let's actually say we're doing that rather
> than setting up the expectation that they'll be able to wait for
> someone to post something on the wiki.
>
> Anyone willing to chip in?
>
> Rob
>
>

See a few more comments/explanations/questions at
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1107 ("Document on-wiki the Architecture
RfC meetings from July onwards") from a few weeks ago.
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