2015-02-21 8:45 GMT+01:00 Pine W <[email protected]>: > Is it necessary to request deletion of a local user page in order to get > the global page to be automatically transcluded? > > Pine > > It seems so. In my case, I created years ago a lot of redirects to my English userpage from many Wikipedia languages, and now I have to request the deletion for all them. Not very useful.
Can we get a special bot task in meta to request userpage deletion in batches? > *This is an Encyclopedia* <https://www.wikipedia.org/> > > > > > > > *One gateway to the wide garden of knowledge, where lies The deep rock of > our past, in which we must delve The well of our future,The clear water we > must leave untainted for those who come after us,The fertile earth, in > which truth may grow in bright places, tended by many hands,And the broad > fall of sunshine, warming our first steps toward knowing how much we do not > know.* > > *—Catherine Munro* > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:17 PM, MZMcBride <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > Erwin Dokter wrote: > > >On 20-02-2015 18:22, Dan Garry wrote: > > >> The feature is currently deployed and working. Simply set up your > > >>userpage > > >> on Meta, and it'll display on all other wikis! :-) > > > > > >After having played with it a bit, I must conclude there is one major > > >shortcoming. > > > > > >I like to list my subpages locally, but that is not possible with a > > >global page. > > > > I think what you're saying here is that if your global user page contains > > "{{Special:PrefixIndex/User:Example}}", this transclusion will expand in > > the context of the global wiki, not in the context of the local wiki. > > > > >The most annoying thing is that once you create the local > > >user page, the global one is gone forever... until you can get a local > > >admin to delete the local copy again. > > > > > >It would be much more practical if this worked like Commons description > > >pages, where one can *add* content to the local description pages in > > >addition to the trancluded page. > > > > Gone forever seems a bit hyperbolic. :-) The use-case being solved here > > most directly is "I don't want to create my user page or a pointer to my > > user page on over 800 wikis." I think the append model is interesting to > > consider, but I think it would likely need to be opt-in, perhaps via > > interwiki transclusion. > > > > >I also don't know why the system is so inflexible in that only one wiki > > >can act as the global home wiki. I know there are issues with the home > > >wiki flag, but another approach could be in the form of using > > >{{meta:user:Edokter}}, which could point to any project. > > > > Right, you're basically suggesting interwiki transclusion here. This is > > definitely a hard problem to solve, for the context reason alone. > > > > In discussing global user pages, someone privately criticized the > > implementation with basically the same theme of what you're saying here. > > Namely, that global user pages are only solving a narrow use-case and > that > > the more generalized problem of easy content distribution/re-use still > > needs to be addressed. I definitely agree, but here's why I pushed this > > project forward and why I'm happy with where we're headed: > > > > 1. Perfect is the enemy of the done. We have global user pages today. If > a > > better approach for global user pages comes along in the future, we > can > > switch to using that instead, for sure. > > > > 2. We're working on a more generalized solution: > > < > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Shadow_namespaces > > >. > > Nemo also pointed me toward <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66474 > > > > which may interest you. > > > > Please share your thoughts and feedback on the wiki or in Phabricator or > > on this mailing list. I think there's consensus that we have a pattern of > > a problem that we want to solve and any help poking and prodding at ideas > > for solutions to this problem would be most welcome. > > > > MZMcBride > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
